So......

[Primetime]

Big Ben won a superbowl with one of the worst lines in the NFL.

Aaron Rodger's clearly holds onto the ball too long, he's been doing it for years.

And Big Ben's offense lost their starting RB, #1 receiving target, and had his #1 possession receiver out for several games? Seriously Nuk, you can't do any better than this? I thought you were a better troll.

[inthecards21]

Manning
Rivers
Brady
Brees
Ben/Rodgers Tie

[Colonel Angus]

BUT HE COULDN'T GET A FIRST DOWN AGAINST THE LIONS IN THE FIRST QUARTER BEEEOOOTTCCHH!!!!!

That's because the Lions defense was playing lights out for most of the game. Detroit is not a gimme win anymore - I've been saying this the entire season and not just because they won today.

Another point - Sam Bradford has something Aaron Rodgers does not: a very good running threat. It's a hell of a lot easier for a QB to rack up passing stats when the defense has 8 men in the box. Rodgers has had to carry the offense on his back and for the most part has done a great job. He has yet to miss a start and probably won't. What happened today happens to every quarterback (for the most part) during an NFL season unless they're named Favre (until recently). It is what it is. Concussions don't play into durability when you're head is bouncing off the turf. Rodgers just needs to learn to fucking slide.

[Nukleopatra]

With one of the greatest defenses in the NFL, also IMO Ben is better than Rodgers, of course i dont want to argue over that because my homer would be showing

You can homer all you want, because Ben is a better NFL quarterback than Rodgers. He can make a bad situation good, when Aaron Rodgers holds onto the ball far too long at times, because his lack of pocket awareness.

Aaron Rodgers is the kind of QB who needs everything to be working - when guys like Ben, Kurt Warner, can take a bad situation, and make it better.

[Primetime]

Depends on where you have him rated.

If he's higher than 8th, he's overrated.

So now it's okay to have him in the top 10, let alone top 8. Hmmmmm...

[Primetime]

Manning
Rivers
Brady
Brees
Ben/Rodgers Tie

I still have it 1a/1b Brady and Manning. Rivers #3 right now.

[inthecards21]

Aaron Rodgers is the kind of QB who needs everything to be working

so having your #1 RB out, terrible O-Line and zero running game qualifies as having everything working?

[Colonel Angus]

You can homer all you want, because Ben is
Aaron Rodgers is the kind of QB who needs everything to be working - when guys like Ben, Kurt Warner, can take a bad situation, and make it better.

I hope no one is comparing Rodgers to Ben or Warner...

[mgoblue2290]

"I heard you fags were talking about the 2nd best QB in the NFC North. Have no fear, White Vick is here!"

[Primetime]

You can homer all you want, because Ben is a better NFL quarterback than Rodgers. He can make a bad situation good, when Aaron Rodgers holds onto the ball far too long at times, because his lack of pocket awareness.

Aaron Rodgers is the kind of QB who needs everything to be working - when guys like Ben, Kurt Warner, can take a bad situation, and make it better.

This was made obvious when Rodgers was facing 4th down and his last chance of the game when he threw an absolute seed to Jordy Nelson for the game tying touchdown a couple weeks ago after having to scramble out of the pocket to buy time.

[Nukleopatra]

Another point - Sam Bradford has something Aaron Rodgers does not: a very good running threat. .

Again, by even comparing the two at this point, is just proving me right. By now, Aaron Rodgers should be more comparable to quarterbacks who aren't rookies, and playing for a 1-15 team. Of course, at this time, Rodgers is better than Sam Bradford.

But I'm not even sure if Aaron Rodgers is better than guys like Tony Romo or David Garrard... David Garrard has playoff experience - David Garrard is winning a division with Peyton Manning in it. Why did Prime laugh at Garrard's name being mentioned? What has Rodgers done, other than posting empty stats every single season?

[Primetime]

Again, by even comparing the two at this point, is just proving me right. By now, Aaron Rodgers should be more comparable to quarterbacks who aren't rookies, and playing for a 1-15 team. Of course, at this time, Rodgers is better than Sam Bradford.

But I'm not even sure if Aaron Rodgers is better than guys like Tony Romo or David Garrard... David Garrard has playoff experience - David Garrard is winning a division with Peyton Manning in it. Why did Prime laugh at Garrard's name being mentioned? What has Rodgers done, other than posting empty stats every single season?

Solid reason to throw Sam Bradford in the top 10 and compare Rodgers to Garrard. You're running out of material Nuk, and you didn't have much to begin with.

[Primetime]

So Garrard is a near top 10 QB because Peyton Manning is struggling. Sounds legit.

[citizenerased]

Solid reason to throw Sam Bradford in the top 10 and compare Rodgers to Garrard. You're running out of material Nuk, and you didn't have much to begin with.

So say's the guy who has posted 26 times in this thread in less then 3 hours.

[Nukleopatra]

Solid reason to throw Sam Bradford in the top 10 and compare Rodgers to Garrard. You're running out of material Nuk, and you didn't have much to begin with.

I fully expect Sam Bradford to be a much better NFL quarterback, winning wise, than Aaron Rodgers, so I just threw him on the list. But if we're going by right now, the last few seasons - what makes Aaron Rodgers so much better than David Garrard? You laughed, and highlighted Garrards name, so we'll use him as an example.

I'll play along - David Garrard is a better nfl quarterback than Aaron Rodgers.

Prove me wrong.