Top 10 reasons why the Bears lost

[Senser81]

On top of that Pereira thought it was pretty clearly incomplete and at worse Shields would be down by contact at the 1.

That should be enough. Pereira is never right, so what ever he thought was incorrect.

Personally, I didn't think they had enough "evidence" to overturn the INT call, but I thought for sure that they'd spot the ball at the one-yard line. That said, too many stupid rules in the NFL.

[FedEx227]

Agree with most of those. The Devin Hetser play I thought it was very clear it was a corner route and Hester ran more of an out. I thought that was very big.

Have we found out for sure what happened with that play?

Seeing it live I saw it as Hester running the wrong route, then I looked at some replays and I couldn't really decide conclusively. He ran most of it like a corner route, unless it was a really deep out route which seems kind of stupid...

[FedEx227]

That should be enough. Pereira is never right, so what ever he thought was incorrect.

Personally, I didn't think they had enough "evidence" to overturn the INT call, but I thought for sure that they'd spot the ball at the one-yard line. That said, too many stupid rules in the NFL.

Is it just me or was Pereira wrong more times than he was right and adding absolutely nothing.

"What do you think Mike?"
"Well they are going to look at if the ball hit the ground... and if it came free...I'd say they overturn it"

Like dude... give us some actual fucking insight, don't Keyshawn Johnson me, actually say something of merit.

[1ke]

^^^ Im not sure and I haven heard anything else on it. I was just going by seeing it live.

I might be wrong but it looked like a decent throw if Devin runs to the corner. IMO it looked like more indecision than anything else on Devins part. Half corner half out, then oh shit theres the ball....

[Senser81]

Is it just me or was Pereira wrong more times than he was right and adding absolutely nothing.

"What do you think Mike?"
"Well they are going to look at if the ball hit the ground... and if it came free...I'd say they overturn it"

Like dude... give us some actual fucking insight, don't Keyshawn Johnson me, actually say something of merit.

Totally agree. The insight I get is how inept he was when he was head of officiating. The whole point of replay was to change egregiously bad calls...there has to be insurmountable evidence. Pereira is always giving some half-assed opinion like "It looks like the ball might have come out", and then he concludes "They have to overturn this". NO, they don't! The evidence isn't conclusive.

On a side note, Mike Pereira is my wife's 2nd least favorite person, behind Tony Kornheiser.

[FirstTimer]

Cutlers initial reaction was classic "What fucking route was he running?"

[FedEx227]

Yeah, the more I think about it it was pretty clearly a post/corner route that Devin just decided after about 30 yards he was going to turn into an out route next to the sidelines.

[FedEx227]

Totally agree. The insight I get is how inept he was when he was head of officiating. The whole point of replay was to change egregiously bad calls...there has to be insurmountable evidence. Pereira is always giving some half-assed opinion like "It looks like the ball might have come out", and then he concludes "They have to overturn this". NO, they don't! The evidence isn't conclusive.

On a side note, Mike Pereira is my wife's 2nd least favorite person, behind Tony Kornheiser.

It's the same frustration that comes with networks getting this ex-players on and having them say the same shit some dude in the parking lot wearing a custom jersey can say.

[Rush]

is anyone really surprised by the outcome of this game?
did anyone who isnt a bear fan think the bears would win this game?

its easy to look good when you play the seahawks, but the fact is the bears are average and it showed.

Why are people downplaying the Bears jesus christ.

They allowed 14 points to the powerful Green Bay offense, they had 21 because Caleb Hanie threw an INT at the 3 yard line that BJ Raji walked into the endzone with.

In the previou week Green Bay scored 48 points on the #1 seed in the NFC on the road. They are a good fucking team. The Bears didn't lose to the Cleveland Browns or the Toronto Raptors (Yes, they play basketball and also suck ass)

The Packers are a good ass team. You guys are making the Bears out to be like they got beat by a high school team.

[FedEx227]

My high school QB played with an injury once!

[bucky]

As for the placement of the ball post-interception. They did make the mistake of not placing it in the correct position. Knox tapped his helmet as he was going down with the ball.

But he didn't finish the process of catching it until after he rolled onto his back and secured the ball AGAIN. So the ref may have looked at the first touch as Shields has not completed securing the ball yet. You would have to touch him AFTER he finishes securing the ball.

Just a thought.

[bucky]

Why are people downplaying the Bears jesus christ.

They allowed 14 points to the powerful Green Bay offense, they had 21 because Caleb Hanie threw an INT at the 3 yard line that BJ Raji walked into the endzone with.

In the previou week Green Bay scored 48 points on the #1 seed in the NFC on the road. They are a good fucking team. The Bears didn't lose to the Cleveland Browns or the Toronto Raptors (Yes, they play basketball and also suck ass)

The Packers are a good ass team. You guys are making the Bears out to be like they got beat by a high school team.

That's just fans over-reacting. See, I think GB deserves a hell of a lot of credit cause they went on the road through out the playoffs against very good teams. And that includes the Bears. I knew it would be a dog fight. That's just how this rivalry is.

Sure I can hate on the Bears, and I do more than any other team in the NFL (Dallas is next after Chi), but I respect the organization and team.

That was a HELL of a win for GB.

[Tengo Juego]

But he didn't finish the process of catching it until after he rolled onto his back and secured the ball AGAIN. So the ref may have looked at the first touch as Shields has not completed securing the ball yet. You would have to touch him AFTER he finishes securing the ball.

Just a thought.

Actually, that's probably why they didn't rule him down by contact. Good call.

[FirstTimer]

McCauley's crew can't have it both ways.

For the sake of arguement if they think Shields pick was clean Knox clearly touched his helmet as Sheilds fell to the turf. That would make him down by contact at the 1 or so.

If they ruled that Knox hadn't touched Shields down because when Sheilds was touched he hadn't firmly secured the football yet then that means the interception never occured as the ball came loose after it touched the ground.

On top of that Pereira thought it was pretty clearly incomplete and at worse Shields would be down by contact at the 1.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8pJlCJjrrU

The ball touched the ground, but it was in his possession. It didn't come loose, it didn't come free of his hand until he began to roll over.

As for the placement of the ball post-interception. They did make the mistake of not placing it in the correct position. Knox tapped his helmet as he was going down with the ball.

The last angle of the last replay clearly shows the ball shifting position/orientation in his mid section after it touched the ground(which is shown in the other view)

But he didn't finish the process of catching it until after he rolled onto his back and secured the ball AGAIN. So the ref may have looked at the first touch as Shields has not completed securing the ball yet. You would have to touch him AFTER he finishes securing the ball.

Just a thought.

Like I said. It can't be both ways.

[bucky]

Like I said. It can't be both ways.

What do you mean it can't be both ways. He hits the ground with his hand under the ball. The video doesn't show the ball moving until he started rolling onto his back. He secures it. I'm not sure I see enough to overturn. If they would have called it incomplete, I'm not sure I see enough to overturn.

I didn't see the ball move until AFTER he had started to roll over. And I did see his hand under the ball when he hit the ground. Not so sure the replays showed anything conclusive enough to overturn. I'm with senser on this.