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  • killgod
    OHHHH WHEN THE REDSSSSS
    • Oct 2008
    • 4714

    #31
    Originally posted by 1ke
    Devin ran the wrong route, as noted by many.
    Oh shit, you guys were in the huddle too?

    Which number were you?!

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    • FirstTimer
      Freeman Error

      • Feb 2009
      • 18729

      #32
      Originally posted by killgod
      Oh shit, you guys were in the huddle too?

      Which number were you?!
      Cutler's "WTF?!?" reaction after the play and looking at the sideline kind of gave it away.

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      • killgod
        OHHHH WHEN THE REDSSSSS
        • Oct 2008
        • 4714

        #33
        Originally posted by FirstTimer
        Cutler's "WTF?!?" reaction after the play and looking at the sideline kind of gave it away.
        He might have been looking at the ball boy. You never know.

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        • Kuzzy Powers
          Beautiful Like Moses
          • Oct 2008
          • 12542

          #34
          Originally posted by North
          Whether or not Cutler was hurt, I think the bigger myth from that game is that Caleb Hanie played well. When he wasn't hitting DBs and DL in the numbers he was completing 1-yard dump passes to Forte. Sure he had some mobility and was light years better than Collins, and I get that we're judging him on the "3rd string player unexpectedly inserted into a big game" grading curve, but let's stop pretending he was Willie Beamen out there. It's not like he blew the game with two brutal giveaways or anything ... oh wait.
          LOL come on.. the 3rd QB throws one TD, damn near threw another (down at the 1), and was helping the lead the team down the field to tie the game in the crunch (and with it being IN HIS HANDS, because the retarded coaching staff REFUSED to use the running game on that last drive). The BJ Raji pick wasnt pretty.. and he was unfortunately in a rushed 4th and 4 position just trying to make a play on his 2nd pick. All things considered he played pretty damn well and showed a lot of heart.

          Theres no question he should've been the number 2 QB all along, he showed that earlier in the season aswell.

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          • Senser81
            VSN Poster of the Year
            • Feb 2009
            • 12804

            #35
            Originally posted by FirstTimer
            I guess in your opinion who between Sid Luckman and Cutler has been better? McMahon? Wade?
            Its empty praise. Like saying W2B is VSN Poster of the Year.

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            • Senser81
              VSN Poster of the Year
              • Feb 2009
              • 12804

              #36
              Originally posted by Bob Kuzzy
              (and with it being IN HIS HANDS, because the retarded coaching staff REFUSED to use the running game on that last drive).

              Theres no question he should've been the number 2 QB all along, he showed that earlier in the season aswell.
              On a related note...in addition to the Bears coaching staff carrying the facade that Todd Collins is still an NFL QB by keeping him at #2, WTF were the Bears thinking by having Collins throw the ball on every down he was in the game?

              Of all the ball bounces, injuries, things that the Bears couldn't really control...the insertion of and usage of Todd Collins in that game was one thing the Bears coaching staff could control, and they completely botched it.

              Anyone who thinks that Lovie Smith is a great coach needs to get their head checked. The Bears overachieved this year, but it was a product of luck and health, not a product of great coaching.

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              • Kuzzy Powers
                Beautiful Like Moses
                • Oct 2008
                • 12542

                #37
                Originally posted by glenwillett
                As much of it was Cutler, I put a lot of it on the coaching as well.. If Taylor/Forte end that game with 50 touches combined, Chicago wins easily. Green Bay's defense was noticeably gassed in the second half and would have been even more-so had they been pounded by those two all game. The conditions and situation even called for it. Run the ball, play field position ball and let the defense that has carried you all the way here get you to the fourth quarter and run it down their throats. That's how you win those games.

                The lack of use of the backs as well as their being no adjustment toward moving the pocket once it was clear they couldn't contain the pressure Capers was bringing up the middle was totally inexcusable.
                Agreed, the coaching staff essentially helped ruin any chance we had, and even when we were in a position to tie the game STILL botched any chance we had. It was amazing that down to our 3rd string QB we were even still in the game, but the team was playing well enough to get it done, and had they let Hanie pick his spots, rather then putting it all in his hands on the last drive, or stupidly going with an end around in such a crucial spot, then it all might've ended differently. To have Hanie throw the ball 7 TIMES IN A ROW on the last drive is absolutely mind blowing, they had a ton of time to get down the field and score. Same with when Collins was in the game.. dont rely on that old sack of shit to try to make a play. And shame on Collins, the veteran that he is, for turtling up and playing like such a piece of trash in the clutch, he did everything he could to completely deflated the team, didnt even TRY to look inspired out there. What a travesty.

                Thats what makes the game so damn bitter for me.. the whole damn team played their heart out and despite the terrible QB situation, the deflation of LOSING your starting QB, the incompetent of your coaching staff, and you still had a chance. Things just had to go moderately right and we'd be going to a SB right now, but it was, in essence, a completely disaster from the two of the most important aspects of the game, QBing, and coaching.

                Can you imagine the legend of Hanie if they win that game? My lord..

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                • bucky
                  #50? WTF?
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 5408

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Bob Kuzzy
                  The BJ Raji pick wasnt pretty.. and he was unfortunately in a rushed 4th and 4 position just trying to make a play on his 2nd pick. All things considered he played pretty damn well and showed a lot of heart.

                  Theres no question he should've been the number 2 QB all along, he showed that earlier in the season aswell.
                  Two crucial picks. One of them costing 7 points. I think he did well too for an emergency QB. He may make an OK backup, but I'm not sure I would want him as a number 2.

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