Who's the major bust?

[Tengo Juego]

Blaine Gabbert.

[StealthShot]

Vernon Gholston.

[Survivor]

Blaine Gabbert.

We are the obviously the only smart ones here. I don't know if they didn't read what I typed earlier but SEVENTY PERCENT OF HIS PASSES OVER TWENTY YARDS DOWN-FIELD ARE INCOMPLETE. HORRIBLE!!!

The kid doesn't stand a chance.

[Aso]

We are the obviously the only smart ones here. I don't know if they didn't read what I typed earlier but SEVENTY PERCENT OF HIS PASSES OVER TWENTY YARDS DOWN-FIELD ARE INCOMPLETE. HORRIBLE!!!

The kid doesn't stand a chance.

Thats actually not absolutely horrible. In 2008 Philip Rivers only completed about 40% of his passes over 20 yards. Other QB's like Rodgers were at about 39%, and Peyton Manning at about 33%. While 30% of your passes being completed over 20 yards isn't great it's not something to look at and say "Bust!!". Without comparison your stat means nothing.

[Atlas]

Thats actually not absolutely horrible. In 2008 Philip Rivers only completed about 40% of his passes over 20 yards. Other QB's like Rodgers were at about 39%, and Peyton Manning at about 33%. While 30% of your passes being completed over 20 yards isn't great it's not something to look at and say "Bust!!". Without comparison your stat means nothing.

are you seriously comparing some NFL QB's completion percentages to a college QB who played in a system tailored for QB's and in a conference that, besides Nebraska and OU, has no defense???

[Aso]

are you seriously comparing some NFL QB's completion percentages to a college QB who played in a system tailored for QB's and in a conference that, besides Nebraska and OU, has no defense???

Ok, thats a great point. The same offense Chase Daniel played in? I don't know much at all about him or even college football for that matter. But I saw that and it didn't sound right to me. I now know why, lol.

[Survivor]

My logic was simply that an unnatural amount of passes are screens, quick slants, curls, etc. in the Tigers offense and that has skewed his numbers that aren't even that great to begin with. His QB rating was a lowly 127.0, which ranks 69th in the country among eligible QBs according to ESPN. How does anything he has ever done on the field translate to professional football?

[Aso]

From what I just saw of Gabbert, he looks like a very talented QB. Strong arm, good athleticism to be able to escape the rush and run when nothings there. I think his inaccuracies are linked to his poor footwork. He doesn't always square his shoulders before a throw. When he does do that he's very accurate but a lot of times he doesn't. He also is impatient with his reads and is quick to run when his first read isn't there, even if he has good protection from his offensive line. He needs to learn to trust his offensive line more and step up and wait for something to open up instead of sprinting out. He'll also have to learn an NFL offense and the footwork there to go along with the that because of the spread offense he was in.

I think if he sat for a few years he could be a good QB but if he is a starter snap 1 of the 2011 season I don't see things boding well for him unless he finds himself on a team like the Ravens when Flacco was a rookie. Run the ball a lot, good defense, and initially keep things simple.

Overall I don't really like Cam Newton, Blaine Gabbert, Jake Locker, or Ryan Mallett at all as a franchise QB.

[Shayn•Da•Pain]

I don't think Cam Newton will be a bust on the level of Russell or Leaf, I just don't think he's going to be any good as an NFL QB. He seems like the kind of guy that will throw one or two interceptions in every game and still make the playoffs.

[Tengo Juego]

From what I just saw of Gabbert, he looks like a very talented QB. Strong arm, good athleticism to be able to escape the rush and run when nothings there. I think his inaccuracies are linked to his poor footwork. He doesn't always square his shoulders before a throw. When he does do that he's very accurate but a lot of times he doesn't. He also is impatient with his reads and is quick to run when his first read isn't there, even if he has good protection from his offensive line. He needs to learn to trust his offensive line more and step up and wait for something to open up instead of sprinting out. He'll also have to learn an NFL offense and the footwork there to go along with the that because of the spread offense he was in.

I think if he sat for a few years he could be a good QB but if he is a starter snap 1 of the 2011 season I don't see things boding well for him unless he finds himself on a team like the Ravens when Flacco was a rookie. Run the ball a lot, good defense, and initially keep things simple.

Overall I don't really like Cam Newton, Blaine Gabbert, Jake Locker, or Ryan Mallett at all as a franchise QB.

The number 1 reason I dont like Gabbert is because he played for Missouri. Just getting that out of the way.

Second, he ran a system effectively. A system that does not produce really good quarterbacks. Certainly not NFL quarterbacks.

Lastly, declining to throw at the combine, I thought was indicative of his lack of readiness. Say whatever you want about the combine not mattering. It matters. He'll have a solid Pro Day. Just like Newton did. He'll stay at the top of most everyone's QB list and probably be drafted in the top 10 of this draft.

[Survivor]

The number 1 reason I dont like Gabbert is because he played for Missouri. Just getting that out of the way.

Second, he ran a system effectively. A system that does not produce really good quarterbacks. Certainly not NFL quarterbacks.

Lastly, declining to throw at the combine, I thought was indicative of his lack of readiness. Say whatever you want about the combine not mattering. It matters. He'll have a solid Pro Day. Just like Newton did. He'll stay at the top of most everyone's QB list and probably be drafted in the top 10 of this draft.

Number one, Missouri has nothing to do with his failures. They produce pro talent since Gary Pinkel came to town. Chase Daniel is a thriving backup to Drew Brees. :silver:

Number two, his effectiveness is debatable. Few Missouri fans will agree with that statement.

[G-men]

a lot of times busts can be determined by the team they go to. the Raiders and Lions (under Millen) have been a black hole this decade during the draft despite having constant picks in the top ten. on the other hand, the Patriots and Steelers are always drafting at the bottom of the round and always seem to come up with good players.

[SuperKevin]

I don't think Cam Newton will be a bust on the level of Russell or Leaf, I just don't think he's going to be any good as an NFL QB. He seems like the kind of guy that will throw one or two interceptions in every game and still make the playoffs.

You just described Brett Favre

[Rayman]

Black on Black racism isn't funny

Dunavan McNabb agrees.

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[inthecards21]

ive got Gabbert, Fairley and Miller all as busts