Beyond Tressel: College Athletics’ Real Scandal

[FedEx227]

Give me four corner offense and purity anyday.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Why is it unfortunate? Who would you rather watch on TV? Derrick Rose at Memphis? Or a true student-athlete at Northwestern who has difficulty dribbling the ball over the half-court line under 10 seconds?

Do you think Ohio St would have sold one less ticket if Pryor was deemed bad news and ended up somewhere else?

[Senser81]

Do you think Ohio St would have sold one less ticket if Pryor was deemed bad news and ended up somewhere else?

I don't know if they would have sold less tickets, but Pryor's memorabilia value definitely would have taken a hit.

[ralaw]

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...e-s-dan-mullen

That works until athletes bring their lawyers (agents) and negotiate for more money, because they feel their brand is greater than their teammates. It would start off as a goodwill gesture by the coaches and when it becomes a full fledge money grab by the players the coaches will want the school to pay for it.

I can see the payout amount being a recruiting tool used by many. Hey, South Carolina pays $300 a game, but if you come and play for me I'll offer you $400!" Much like the #1 pick in the NFL every year the next year’s recruit will want more than last years. Before you know it athletes will be making thousands. Also, how do you distinguish who should get more? Is Terrelle Pryor worth more than the random OL? Would Matt Lineart have been worth more than Reggie Bush based on psstitional value? If everythingis based on memorabilia value than I'd say he is, but by how much?

[Senser81]

That works until athletes bring their lawyers (agents) and negotiate for more money, because they feel their brand is greater than their teammates. It would start off as a goodwill gesture by the coaches and when it becomes a full fledge money grab by the players the coaches will want the school to pay for it.

I can see the payout amount being a recruiting tool used by many. Hey, South Carolina pays $300 a game, but if you come and play for me I'll offer you $400!" Much like the #1 pick in the NFL every year the next year’s recruit will want more than last years. Also, how do you distinguish who should get more? Is Terrelle Pryor worth more than the random OL? If everythingis based on revenue than I'd say he is, but by how much?

But that can happen anyway. Hey, South Carolina pays $0 a game, but if you come and play for me I'll offer you $100!

The NCAA can't have it both ways. They can't say "we can't even consider giving the players money, because it would lead to uncontrolled corruption", and at the same time turn a blind eye to the uncontrolled corruption that already exists.

I don't see how giving football/bball players money will increase/decrease corruption. As it stands, the NCAA is operating under prohibition-era laws.

[Bear Pand]

Spurrier admits in the article he's not completely sure how to get it done. He just thinks the players deserve more.

Like he said, maybe the system made sense 50 years ago. Not today with all the money these schools are making.

[Warner2BruceTD]

But that can happen anyway. Hey, South Carolina pays $0 a game, but if you come and play for me I'll offer you $100!

The NCAA can't have it both ways. They can't say "we can't even consider giving the players money, because it would lead to uncontrolled corruption", and at the same time turn a blind eye to the uncontrolled corruption that already exists.

I don't see how giving football/bball players money will increase/decrease corruption. As it stands, the NCAA is operating under prohibition-era laws.

I think everyone agrees the rules are goofy. The crux of the argument, is do we need harder rules with real backbone, or do we open things up and run the wild west?

To me, its already the wild west, so opening things up changes nothing, aside from throwing in the towel and giving up.

Rules, and laws, with real teeth would incite change.

[Senser81]

[Warner2BruceTD]

There are 26 people in that epic picture. How many can you identify?

I got 14, I think.

[Senser81]

The only two worth identifying are the two white guys in the back row with their middle fingers to the camera.

[G-men]

if you are going to "legally" pay them, you might as well just let them go to the pros as soon as they want to. because at some point, there will be no difference between college athletes and pro athletes for the top tier guys.

[Senser81]

There are 26 people in that epic picture. How many can you identify?

I got 14, I think.

I could only identify 8. I knew none of the linemen. Doug DuBose is #22, Testaverde is #14, Jimmy Johnson is one of the coaches, Bosworth and Rod Woodson are sitting next to each other, Cris Carter, Lorenzo White, and Roger Vick are in the front row.

[nflman2033]

I got 7