ESPN has a new tiered QB rating system

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  • Bear Pand
    RIP Indy Colts
    • Feb 2009
    • 5945

    ESPN has a new tiered QB rating system



    The Total Quarterback Rating takes into account a larger number of variables than the nearly 40-year-old NFL Passer Rating system -- including down and distance, field position and importance of the game situation.

    The new QBR weighs rushes, passes, sacks, fumbles, interceptions and penalties and calculate the per-play net impact of the quarterback. As an example, a pass completion on third down that yields a first down is worth more than a completion for the same yardage that doesn't result in a first down. Plays in closely contested games also count for more in the system.
    It will be based on a 100-point scale, with ratings in the 70s being Pro Bowl caliber, and a rating of 50 will be considered average.
    The late Don Smith never claimed his passer-rating formula was perfect.Quite the opposite, in fact."Some people call it a quarterback rating system, but that really is not what it is," Smith told me during a 2002 interview.


    I've seen an outline for the rating system breaking down 2010 quarterbacks into six general categories, from top tier to poor. Precise rating numbers were not yet available. The quarterbacks under consideration broke down as follows:
    • Top tier: Brady, Peyton Manning, Matt Ryan, Michael Vick, Rodgers and Drew Brees.
    • Well above average: Josh Freeman, Eli Manning and Philip Rivers.
    • Above average: Ben Roethlisberger, Tony Romo, Joe Flacco, Matt Schaub, David Garrard and Kerry Collins.
    • Around average: Matt Cassel, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Mark Sanchez, Carson Palmer, Colt McCoy, Kyle Orton and Jon Kitna.
    • Below average: Shaun Hill, Jason Campbell, Jay Cutler, Matt Hasselbeck, Chad Henne, Donovan McNabb, Sam Bradford and Alex Smith.
    • Poor: Derek Anderson, Brett Favre and Jimmy Clausen.
    Tiers >>>>>>>>>>>> Ordered lists.

    ESPN gonna introduce their new system on Aug 5.

    PS: LOL at Orton being on a higher tier than Cutler :orton:
  • NAHSTE
    Probably owns the site
    • Feb 2009
    • 22233

    #2
    IB4 BigBucs either cries about Freeman being below Ryan or gloats about Freeman being above Sanchez.

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    • Rudi
      #CyCueto
      • Nov 2008
      • 9905

      #3
      lol at Carson Palmer being on the same level as Ryan Fitzpatrick and Jon Kitna.

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      • j.hen
        Self Care
        • Oct 2008
        • 10058

        #4
        Matty Ice = Top Tier

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        • StealthShot
          Eat it
          • Oct 2008
          • 5048

          #5
          Vick top tier?


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          • Shayn•Da•Pain
            Laughs Unlimited
            • Nov 2008
            • 5204

            #6
            :waitwhat:

            Wait a minute...something doesn't look right.
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            • DoubleDeuce
              Spellin' n' shit
              • Feb 2009
              • 5873

              #7
              Kerry Collins that high?

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              • Aso
                The Serious House
                • Nov 2008
                • 11137

                #8
                Thats awful. How can you say with a straight face Eli Manning and Philip Rivers are on the same level not to mention an infinite amount of other things wrong with it. Thats one ugly ass list.

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                • RyanLeaf16
                  #DoSomething
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 3211

                  #9
                  Originally posted by NAHSTE
                  IB4 BigBucs either cries about Freeman being below Ryan or gloats about Freeman being above Sanchez.
                  LULZ...in before I could make the same comment.
                  Maddon & Friedman: Pissing off the AL East since 2008

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                  • Warner2BruceTD
                    2011 Poster Of The Year
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 26142

                    #10
                    Originally posted by glenwillett
                    Whoa @ Bradford being lumped in with that group of toads
                    Rookie QB's hardly ever put up good statistics. Plus, playing for the ultra conservative Spagnuolo in the awful offensive system of Pat Shurmur, combined with a collection of mediocre possession receivers to throw to, led to nothing but dump offs and mid range passing.

                    "Checkdown Sam" wasn't actually checking down, he was running the bland and unimaginative offense. Watching the Rams last year was like watching football from three decades ago.

                    3500+ yards, 60%, and more TD's (18) than INT's (15). Hard to find rookie QB's who matched those numbers.

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                    • G-men
                      Posts too much
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 7579

                      #11
                      It's about time Eli gets some respect, though there are some guys that look a little out of place. I wouldn't say Bradford, Cutler, or Hasselbeck are below average, especially when compared to guys like Sanchez, Kitna, and Colt McCoy.

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                      • Aso
                        The Serious House
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 11137

                        #12
                        Hasselbecks been below average for 3 years now.

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                        • Warner2BruceTD
                          2011 Poster Of The Year
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 26142

                          #13
                          I'm interested in seeing the formula. Remember, this is just a number crunch based on statistics from last year. I see nothing on that list that looks woefully ridiculous.

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                          • Bear Pand
                            RIP Indy Colts
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 5945

                            #14
                            Me too.

                            I want to see the actual formula, then see them use it on QBs entire careers past and present if they can.

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                            • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
                              Highwayman
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 15429

                              #15
                              Top tier: Brady, Peyton Manning, Matt Ryan, Michael Vick, Rodgers and Drew Brees.
                              Well above average: Josh Freeman, Eli Manning and Philip Rivers.
                              Above average: Ben Roethlisberger, Tony Romo, Joe Flacco, Matt Schaub, David Garrard and Kerry Collins.

                              LMFAO @ Matt Ryan and Michael Vick being rated higher than Ben fucking Roethlisberger, nevermind Eli Manning, Phil Rivers, and Joe Flacco and more lulz @ Kerry Collins on PAR with Roethlisberger.

                              Big Ben is laughing his way into Canton and ESPN ranks a mope like Michael Vick ahead of him.

                              I ACT SURPRISED!

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