The 2011 Tim Tebow Tracking Thread

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You are going to the game Al Brooks? Tell him I'm a huge fan!

[DSpydr84]

Some of you guys can disregard the changes Denver has made as minor from a technique perspective (although I think you are downplaying that aspect drastically), but this is the only time I can recall an NFL offense changing everything they do, philosophically and otherwise, right down to the play calls, to such a drastic degree mid season. Aside from a completely revamped base offense, they have installed a new red zone package, new short yardage package, basically everything is different. Saying a power block is still a power block is like saying "a jump shot is a jump shot" if a college basketball team converted from a run and gun to a Princeton offense.

I think if Denver wins the division, or even makes the playoffs, John Fox should win Coach of the Year running away.

This is an (unbelievably bad) amateur sketch I just made to show what's going on here.

The top play is Inside Zone. Something Denver has been using all season. O-line doesn't have a "player", they have the strong gap. RB reads 3-technique, yadda yadda.

The second play is the Zone Read. NOTHING CHANGES WITH THE LINE. The only difference is now we can hold the backside end from a heel-line trail and tackling our RB. If the end crashes inside to stop the Inside Zone, the QB simply keeps the ball and out-runs him.

The third play is the Triple Option. NOTHING CHANGES WITH THE LINE. It is an extension to the Zone Read. The WR goes in motion, if the end crashes down, the QB keeps. We now option the CB, if he plays the QB, we pitch, if he plays the WR, the QB keeps.


Didn't wanna go that far, but it had to be said.

[DSpydr84]

Do you have pictures of the Denver o-line's blocking scheme with Orton under center? Because that's the change I was talking about.

Same concept.

[Atlas]

Same concept.

lol i was about to do that...

[Atlas]

So why is the same offensive line throwing the exact same blocks now getting 5 yards a carry for their backs instead of two?

b/c the defense also has to worry about tebow keeping the ball, thus opening up some running lanes...

[FirstTimer]

So why is the same offensive line throwing the exact same blocks now getting 5 yards a carry for their backs instead of two?

It's not like Denver didn't run teh ball well before Tebow took over for good. They had game sof 131, 119, and 162 in Orton starts(although Tebow finished the Chargers game)

They've also faced some of the worst rush defenses in the entire NFL the last few weeks...

[FirstTimer]

So Tim Tebow has single handedly revamped the Broncos running game. I think my work here is done.

You've turned into BBIB. Tebow is your Vick.

[Atlas]

So Tim Tebow has single handedly revamped the Broncos running game. I think my work here is done.

has anyone in this thread argued otherwise??

[Atlas]

So yeah it is like we weren't running the ball well actually. I do love you guys who have watched Denver twice this year telling me how it is though.

its extremely similar to you having no idea how blocking schemes work, but lecturing me on how different everything is with this "new offense"... pot, meet kettle...

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[FirstTimer]

Not really. W2B and I are the only ones in here enjoying the moment. The rest of you want to play fortune teller and tell me how it will never work. I'm not predicting anything, just having a good time watching my team play.

Bull.

I've stated repeatedly in here I hope he does well and have enjoyed watching him play.

It's fun. It's different.

[ZoneBlitz]

The point glen was making about Denver needing time to implement their new running scheme is not valid. The point glen was making about the running game being improved due to Tebow is very valid.

[Atlas]

There are more positions on the field than QB and O-line bub.

WR's and TE's either block or run fake go routes on running plays, so nothing really changes for them either...

[FirstTimer]

TEs and WRs have to know where to be set on the line in several new formations. New pre snap motion. None of our RBs ran the option in college and have to learn spacing and work and receiving the pitch while running, we saw Jeremiah Johnson fuck it up last night. And Denver has yet to have a game in this offense without an illegal formation penalty.

He ran it at Oregon.

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[Warner2BruceTD]

OL, WR, TE, QB, everyone is doing the same things out there. That's why it's completely different.

[FirstTimer]

OL, WR, TE, QB, everyone is doing the same things out there. That's why it's completely different.

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