Kurt Warner to play in 2009.

[steeljake]

Do you come with a guide or something? Because I've seen three posts by you, and you're already quite possibly the dumbest motherfucker I've seen - and I spent 5 years at Madden Mania.

sorry i didnt mean to get to complicated for you. let me bring this down to your level....


warner sucks and my dad can beat up your dad.

[Nukleopatra]

sorry i didnt mean to get to complicated for you. let em bring this down to your level....

warner sucks and my dad can beat up your dad.

You should get a job at Microsoft, answering phones..

Rumor has it, they're getting short on foreigners.

I appreciate your attempt to simplify your posts, though. No hard feelings, of course.

[steeljake]

your welcome...

back on topic...

the cards have to bring warner back. they could be just like the raiders post super bowl loss to the bucs if they don't. I am not sure i am ready to say Lienhart is abust,but he has not shown any kind of work ethic and desire to be the starter besides just running his mouth about it. that division is there for the taking with the seahawks and rams being shitty. The 9ers mightmake some progress, but i don't feel like they will show results until at least 2010 season. If Arizona wants to win they need warner, unless of course they can trade for drew brees, then they could win the super bowl, unless they play pittsburgh.... again.

[Nukleopatra]

the cards have to bring warner back. they could be just like the raiders post super bowl loss to the bucs if they don't. I am not sure i am ready to say Lienhart is abust,but he has not shown any kind of work ethic and desire to be the starter besides just running his mouth about it..

Usually when a quarterback has time to play behind Warner, they at least mature. Matt Leinart, however, is an entirely different case. Why he would even feel the need to say Arizona would have made the super bowl without Warner, is beyond me. His lack of maturity should worry Arizona more than anything else.

As for Drew Brees - He couldn't get to a super bowl, if NO traded him to New England, and Tom Brady went down during the first half of the AFC Championship game. Drew Brees incompetence even surprises me, and I should be used to it by now.

[Tailback U]

Usually when a quarterback has time to play behind Warner, they at least mature. Matt Leinart, however, is an entirely different case. Why he would even feel the need to say Arizona would have made the super bowl without Warner, is beyond me. His lack of maturity should worry Arizona more than anything else.

As for Drew Brees - He couldn't get to a super bowl, if NO traded him to New England, and Tom Brady went down during the first half of the AFC Championship game. Drew Brees incompetence even surprises me, and I should be used to it by now.

I don't know why you continue to bash Leinart and refuse to give the guy any respect. I know you are against all partying and having fun whatsoever and are most likely a religious zealot so I can see why you prefer the taste of Warner's balls to Leinart's, but from all indications Leinart is maturing and learning from Warner and the two have a pretty good relationship.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/27/sports/football/27leinart.html?em

January 27, 2009
Cardinals’ Super Bowl Trip Has Leinart Studying Again
By KAREN CROUSE

TEMPE, Ariz. — Matt Leinart wants you to know he is fine. Really. “I’m great,” he said last week. “I get to go to the Super Bowl.”

Leinart, the Cardinals’ third-year quarterback, smiled as he spoke. But seeing the veteran Kurt Warner lead the Arizona franchise out of the desert has to have been hard, and later in the 10-minute interview he said, “It’s a weird thing.”

If Leinart feels like the father of the bride watching another man walk her down the aisle, there is a reason. Before Arizona became the 37-year-old Warner’s team, it was entrusted to the 25-year-old Leinart, the franchise’s future and his own entwined like the laces on a football.

Drafted at No. 10 over all by the Cardinals in 2006, Leinart made 16 starts in his first two years before he was sidelined in the fifth game of the 2007 season by a broken collarbone and supplanted by Warner.

The Cardinals’ coach, Ken Whisenhunt, named Leinart the starter last January but changed his mind after observing both quarterbacks in the 2008 preseason. Warner infused the Cardinals — and his career — with new life in 2008, passing for more than 4,000 yards and 30 touchdowns. In three playoff games, his passer rating is 112.1.

Leinart was limited to four cameo appearances, in which he threw 29 passes. A day after the Cardinals’ 32-25 victory against the Philadelphia Eagles in the National Football Conference championship game, his voice was hoarse from cheering.

It was hardly the role Leinart envisioned when he came to Arizona with a Heisman Trophy, at least a share of two national championships, a Hollywood publicist and a celebrity entourage after a standout career at Southern California.

“I know that I’ll look back 10 years from now and say this year was a great learning year for me, a great steppingstone to get to where I need to go,” Leinart said.

He had just finished a weight-lifting session and was wearing a gray nylon U.S.C. pullover. He spoke at his locker before hurrying off to a team meeting. “I’ve been ready to go every week,” Leinart said. “I’ve been prepared. I’ve got a big future ahead of me. I’ll be ready to play when my number’s called.”

It can be a rude awakening, leaving the cocoon of college for the N.F.L. Big-time college football programs operate much like the old Hollywood studio system, protecting their stars and projecting to the public a carefully crafted image of their leading men.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/02012009/sports/moresports/leinart_learning_from_veteran_warner_153076.htm

LEINART LEARNING FROM VETERAN WARNER
By PAUL SCHWARTZ

Last updated: 2:38 pm
February 1, 2009
Posted: 3:01 am
February 1, 2009

TAMPA, Fla. - Matt Leinart was supposed to be the one to lead the Cardinals out of the desert and into the promised land of the Super Bowl. That's why they made him the No. 3 overall pick in the 2006 NFL Draft after he came out of USC after his junior year.

He had the left arm, the Heisman Trophy, the good looks and the star-in-waiting quality. But he doesn't have the job of starting quarterback. That is possessed by Kurt Warner, who at 37 is 12 years older than Leinart and was written off by most everyone in a position of power in the league.

Leinart? He started 11 games as a rookie and the first five of 2007 before he went on injured reserve with a busted collarbone. A training camp battle with Warner did not go well - Warner won the job, Leinart sat. It's been that way ever since. He will be the backup, one injury away from playing tonight in Super Bowl XLII.

"You work so hard going into training camp and you think you are going to be the guy and then it doesn't happen that way," Leinart said. "So I really had to step back and say, 'You know what? I can be a distraction and be all mad and point the finger or I can be a good teammate and support Kurt and still work by butt off and prepare every day like I'm the starting quarterback.' And that's the road I decided to take.

"I feel that if I would have gone the other way it would have probably been a wasted year for me because I would have been more of a distraction than being a teammate."

It's an odd pairing. Leinart calls Warner "Pops" and "Old Man" but says he has been a valued mentor. Leinart remains the quarterback of the future for the Cardinals, but Warner shows no sign of slowing down and offers no sense that he's leaving any time soon.

"I've been there. I've been the guy looking from the outside in, just hoping and waiting for that opportunity," Warner said. "The one thing I always tell Matt is stay patient and utilize every single opportunity you get so when the time comes, you're ready to succeed, you can seize it and run with it. I didn't start my first game in the NFL until I was 28 years old and my career has turned out pretty good. He's got a few years yet before he reaches that age."

Arizona is a young team, Leinart has the credentials, the ability, and the work ethic to take over the reigns once the Hall of Famer is gone. Despite what you think, he is a leader and his accomplishments speak for themselves. Will he succeed in the NFL and develop into a top tier QB? I don't know, but I'm not going to question the work ethic or leadership of a 2 time National Champion and Heisman trophy winning Quarterback that virtually a nobody when he arrived at USC.

[Nukleopatra]

Arizona is a young team, Leinart has the credentials, the ability, and the work ethic to take over the reigns once the Hall of Famer is gone.

Well, of course - Who is going to challenge him?

Matt Leinart says what he has to say, and then he blows it by saying something completely fucking stupid, which he did during the super bowl. He's an immature jackass, who is only capable of getting the job, when he doesn't have to compete or earn it. Once the Warner deal is final, I wouldn't doubt if the punk starts demanding a trade. You stick him in front of a camera, and it's only a matter of time before something stupid comes out of his face.

This is a thread about Arizona trying to sign a guy who will continue to help them win, I won't waste anymore time responding to Matt Leinart, until he starts crying like the bitch that he is, where I will be more than happy to place it in his very own thread.

Back to Kurt Warner.
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Cardinals general manager Rod Graves said Saturday that the team is negotiating with Kurt Warner on a new contract and hopes to complete a deal, “sooner, rather than later.”

Warner had contemplated retirement during the season, but his agent recently announced that he would return to play next year.

The veteran quarterback has made clear he prefers to return to Arizona and Graves is working to make that happen.

“I’m optimistic that we’ll eventually get something done,” said Graves.

Two other Cardinals with question marks are WR Anquan Boldin and RB Edgerrin James.

Boldin has voiced concerns about his contract and has been seeking a new deal since last year’s offseason.

Graves said the Cardinals’ stance on Boldin has not changed. “He’s under contract with us for two more years and we’ll sit down and talk when the time is right,” said Graves.

“I wish we were in a position to address everybody’s contract desires, when they wanted them to, but that doesn’t happen in the real world. So, we’re just going to weight it against the other priorities we have and make the best decision for our football team.”

As for James, Graves said Arizona has yet to make a decision on his future with the team.

James had stated he wanted to be released by the Cardinals prior to the playoffs last year, but he played well during Arizona’s Super Bowl run with the second-most postseason rushing yards this year (236).

[Tailback U]

Well, of course - Who is going to challenge him?

Matt Leinart says what he has to say, and then he blows it by saying something completely fucking stupid, which he did during the super bowl. He's an immature jackass, who is only capable of getting the job, when he doesn't have to compete or earn it. Once the Warner deal is final, I wouldn't doubt if the punk starts demanding a trade. You stick him in front of a camera, and it's only a matter of time before something stupid comes out of his face.

This is a thread about Arizona trying to sign a guy who will continue to help them win, I won't waste anymore time responding to Matt Leinart, until he starts crying like the bitch that he is, where I will be more than happy to place it in his very own thread.

Back to Kurt Warner.

It wouldn't be out of the ordinary for him to ask for a trade if Warner does sign a 2 or 3 year deal. He feels like he can play now and he wants to compete, competitors want to play, period.

No shame in losing the starting gig to a hall of famer, either. And I don't really know what he has said that you think is so stupid and immature during the super bowl, please enlighten me, maybe you'll change my mind and my perception of him will change.

[bucky]

So is Warner now on the Brett Favre retirement plan??

[Nukleopatra]

So is Warner now on the Brett Favre retirement plan??

I certainly hope not.

I'd rather him retire now, than to go out the way Favre did.

[bucky]

I certainly hope not.

I'd rather him retire now, than to go out the way Favre did.

Me too. I like Warner. I also like Favre. Yes, even through all the crap last year. But I'm a GB fan and won't wipe out 16 years because of one tard year.

And what's with all the Best QB threads? Aren't guys smart enough to put everything from one topic in the same thread? At least you clowns at MM had one "ONE" 10 ten QB thread. You remember that one. Archie Manning at the top of the list.

[bucky]

It wouldn't be out of the ordinary for him to ask for a trade if Warner does sign a 2 or 3 year deal.

Hey, they can trade him to GB for Aaron Rodgers. There are STILL some GB fans who think that GB was stupid for trading Brett and resigning Rodgers to an extension.