Big passing yards don’t correlate to championships

[Shayn•Da•Pain]

hey can i buy myseklf out of the bet by week 8?

For those that don't know, the bet was this. I think the 49ers are going to beat the Rams in the division standings this season. Red does not. Right now it doesn't look good for you Red. So what are you recommending for the buyout.

[leaffan]

Whats even more odder of a stat is pretty much look at every team that has won a superbowl in the last 20 years and every one of them except Tampa, Baltimore and the giants, have an elite level QB.

[Champ]

Whats even more odder of a stat is pretty much look at every team that has won a superbowl in the last 20 years and every one of them except Tampa, Baltimore and the giants, have an elite level QB.

Eli played lights out during the playoffs that season.

[Rayman]

If not for Emmitt Smith and Terrel Davis you'd be in the 40s before finding a SB winning RB with same criteria. (unless I overlooked something in my 48 second glance) 1992 was first time a team won a SB with a NFL rushing leader.

Balance and Defense - championships ?

Was just gonna post pretty much this.

I love you and hate you at the same time.

[leaffan]

Eli played lights out during the playoffs that season.

Not really. He played just like he always does which is avg. Stop over rating an avg. QB.

Once again you can thank the defense for stepping up big time against brady and company.

[Shayn•Da•Pain]

Eli played lights out during the playoffs that season.

Lights out though, really?

Vs. Tampa: 20-27, 185 yards, 2 tds. Solid.
Vs. Dallas: 12-18, 163 yards, 2 tds. Solid.
Vs. G.Bay: 21-40, 251 yards, 0 tds, 72.0 rating, 52.5% comp. perc. Not lights out really.
Vs. Patriots: 19-34, 255 yards, 2 tds, 1 int, 87.3 rating, 55.9 comp. perc. Without the 4th quarter heroics, who knows. He just didn't look lights out until late in the game as far as I remember.

I'd say Manning played lights out for one quarter in the playoffs that year, the most important quarter. The 4th quarter of the Super Bowl. The rest of his playoff performance was good, but calling it lights out is putting a little to much salt on them french fries son.

[Shayn•Da•Pain]

Not really. He played just like he always does which is avg. Stop over rating an avg. QB.

Once again you can thank the defense for stepping up big time against brady and company.

This.

Holding a record breaking offense to 17 points in the big game is HEUGE!

[BigBucs]

U either need a very, very good defense or an elite QB to win a SB. That has been the case as long as I remember. If you have an average QB your defense has to be dominate. If you have an average defense you must have an elite QB. Having both is just icing on the cake but no body wins without one of the 2.

Whats even more odder of a stat is pretty much look at every team that has won a superbowl in the last 20 years and every one of them except Tampa, Baltimore and the giants, have an elite level QB.

Ravens and Bucs fielded ATG defenses those SB years. While Eli wasnt what some may consider Elite he was solid with a good run game and a good defensive team. Giants were well balanced that season.

[Champ]

Lights out though, really?

Vs. Tampa: 20-27, 185 yards, 2 tds. Solid.
Vs. Dallas: 12-18, 163 yards, 2 tds. Solid.
Vs. G.Bay: 21-40, 251 yards, 0 tds, 72.0 rating, 52.5% comp. perc. Not lights out really.
Vs. Patriots: 19-34, 255 yards, 2 tds, 1 int, 87.3 rating, 55.9 comp. perc. Without the 4th quarter heroics, who knows. He just didn't look lights out until late in the game as far as I remember.

I'd say Manning played lights out for one quarter in the playoffs that year, the most important quarter. The 4th quarter of the Super Bowl. The rest of his playoff performance was good, but calling it lights out is putting a little to much salt on them french fries son.

Re-watch those games. You can see he made a lot of great reads and throws. That Green Bay game is actually a good game by Eli. The stats don't show it but he put the team in a position to win in each of those games.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Lights out though, really?

Vs. Tampa: 20-27, 185 yards, 2 tds. Solid.
Vs. Dallas: 12-18, 163 yards, 2 tds. Solid.
Vs. G.Bay: 21-40, 251 yards, 0 tds, 72.0 rating, 52.5% comp. perc. Not lights out really.
Vs. Patriots: 19-34, 255 yards, 2 tds, 1 int, 87.3 rating, 55.9 comp. perc. Without the 4th quarter heroics, who knows. He just didn't look lights out until late in the game as far as I remember.

I'd say Manning played lights out for one quarter in the playoffs that year, the most important quarter. The 4th quarter of the Super Bowl. The rest of his playoff performance was good, but calling it lights out is putting a little to much salt on them french fries son.

This post lacks context. I question whether you remember those games, or even watched them in the first place.

Those were tremendous postseason road performances. Especially the GB game, which if I recall had awful weather and Eli consistently found Plaxico on huge third downs.

He was part of a legendary fourth quarter comeback in the SB, and you could argue that as his worst overall performance out of the four games. Think about that.

edit-champ posted as I was typing, and pretty much summed it up.

[leaffan]

Re-watch those games. You can see he made a lot of great reads and throws. That Green Bay game is actually a good game by Eli. The stats don't show it but he put the team in a position to win in each of those games.

No one's rewatching anything.

He was avg the entire time. I had to watch most of those playoff games and when you compare him to bradys performances its night and day.

[MmmmBeeeeer]

Not even reading the thread, but Peyton Manning had the grace of a defense showing up bigtime in the playoffs/super bowl

[Warner2BruceTD]

No one's rewatching anything.

He was avg the entire time. I had to watch most of those playoff games and when you compare him to bradys performances its night and day.

Do you have any concept of how hard it is to win road playoff games in the NFL? Manning was not only incredibly efficient, but also made tons of huge throws in those games. Stats are for geeks, I would hesitate to say 'lights out', but Eli was very, very good bordering on great.

[Champ]

Do you have any concept of how hard it is to win road playoff games in the NFL? Manning was not only incredibly efficient, but also made tons of huge throws in those games. Stats are for geeks, I would hesitate to say 'lights out', but Eli was very, very good bordering on great.

You are correct. Saying "Lights out" was incorrect by me. I should had said a great performance by Eli.

[leaffan]

Do you have any concept of how hard it is to win road playoff games in the NFL? Manning was not only incredibly efficient, but also made tons of huge throws in those games. Stats are for geeks, I would hesitate to say 'lights out', but Eli was very, very good bordering on great.

LOL. Chubby called Eli Manning lights out... I called him out on it.

I'm glad an avg. QB was incredibly efficient.