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That's kind of the point. It's not about one thing or the other. The great teams, the ones that win championships, have balance.
The 2000 Baltimore Ravens are an exception, not a rule. And even they had a decent run game and a QB who understood his role was simply not to fuck up.
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Don't be mad bro. My point was that the giants won the SB because of some dam good defense and not because of their QB. Your point was that Eli Manning played lights out which really had nothing to do with what this thread was about outside of me calling Eli avg. Which he dam well is and I don't need to prove anything about that because he's avg and its a well known fact.
KoF saying it seems like having a good balanced offense with a great decent is still showing to be right.
Unless you're the colts...
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he does that shit all the time, or he'll ride killgod's nuts with a quote and a "LOL YEAH HES RIGHT LOL" or some bullshit like that thrown in afterwards.
back on topic, while this is an interesting statistic, i dont know if its applicable. honestly, with the contact rules being what they are, with how quarterbacks are protected, and with all the score raising rule changes that have taken place, you can almost throw out the early half of the record books. The game is really different even compared to 10 years ago. Parity has worked.
the NFL has worked tirelessly to bring randomness and an "anyone can win the big one" mentality to the sport, and it has worked, this golden goose is laying eggs like a motherfucker in the modern era and the biggest shot at competition to that throne (the NBA) is about to lose its season to a lockout, so theres no reason to doubt the trend will continue (if it aint broke, dont fix it). there isnt a statistic that can really help you predict who might win a superbowl. the Packers last year had the #2 ranked defense yeah but Aaron Rodgers kicked it into a gear we never saw before in the playoffs and whatever the defensive stats were, Rodgers won the ring for that team last year. That, and they were simply better than the Steelers, it was a bad matchup for Pittsburgh.
There's just too much shit that can happen in the course of a game and over the course of a season that needs to break right for a team to win a Superbowl to ever quantify even partially in statistics, and especially from pre free agency era statistics.Comment
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I still believe defense + balance wins championships. Regardless of their offense, the SB champs are generally top 5 defensive teams. You have an even better chance if you're top 5 against the run. My reasoning being that even in a pass happy league it's a lot easier for a good defense to shut down a one dimensional team. There are exceptions, but even then the defense usually has shown up well in the playoffs.
BTW, Eli was outstanding during that SB run. Yeah, his stats weren't all-world but he made all the right throws at the right time throughout the playoffs. And the one stat that matters, aside from the wins, is that he only threw the one pick during that whole run and that was on a tip (by his own guy iirc). Yes, overall he's average (maybe a little better) but for a month he was great.Comment
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Yeah, anyone who thinks Eli was 'average' during that run is either talking directly out of their ass, or doesn't understand what they're watching.
I love the revisionist history that goes on concerning that run. Nobody was talking about the supposed herculean Giants defensive efforts until after the SB. GB carved them up in bad weather a week before. Eli's play had just as much to do with that run as the defense. He was outstanding. Winning three consecutive road games in the playoffs is nearly impossible. Really good QB's go their entire career without winning three road playoff games.Comment
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Not trying to take anything away from Eli's run, but 3 out of the last 6 superbowl winners won three games on the road on their way to the Super Bowl. Plus, in four out of the last six years, the road won half or more of their playoff games. It's not as impossible as you are making it out to be.
I had higher expectations for Eli when he came into the NFL. Aside from the playoff run in 07, IMO he's been very average.Comment
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This is spot on. That's why I say passing offense is becoming more important than great defense in today's NFL. I'm old school, and pretty set in my ways about balance offense, and strong defense. It used to be run and stop the run. Now, it's try and get an upper tier QB, spread it out, and score points. The running game is becoming less important. And offense is becoming more important than defense because of the rule changes.
QB's can hold the ball longer in the pocket because they are protected so much more today. WR's are far more protected today, along with rules changes that favor the WR over the DB.
Defense is still very important, and balance is better than not being balanced, but the passing game has become more important than anything else.Comment
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