VSN's Top 10 NFL Quarterbacks.

[Archer]

Btw i dont mean Bradys bad lol (just incase it looked like that) brady and manning are 1a and 1b IMO

[FirstTimer]

Not really cause a dominant d and run game can carry an awful qb to a sb . But they cant for mvp.

Trent Dilfer. NFL MVP of 2000.

[Archer]

Trent Dilfer. NFL MVP of 2000.

LOL

[killgod]

Not really cause a dominant d and run game can carry an awful qb to a sb . But they cant for mvp.

the one MVP I felt he didn't deserve was SB MVP. That was a media buttfuck decision cause the guy finally got the shit done (even tho he did nothing in the entire playoffs, as well as that game).

Rhodes was that game's MVP.

[Archer]

the one MVP I felt he didn't deserve was SB MVP. That was a media buttfuck decision cause the guy finally got the shit done (even tho he did nothing in the playoffs).

Rhodes was that game's MVP.

He played well in the sb but probably wasnt mvp. Peyton apart from the opening 10minutes "buttraped" the Bears cover 2 d. Lots of SB MVPs are wierd . Eli Manning probably wasnt SB MVP , theres many cases of underserved sb mvps. So dont talk like Manning was the only one. Its funny cause all regular season Manning carried the poor ass d to the playoffs then in the post season the d carried Manning somewhat.

Isint that what a teams about? If u think Tom Brady won all the pats playoff games himself ur dumb . The Pats D is notorious to play nasty in the post season

[FirstTimer]

the one MVP I felt he didn't deserve was SB MVP. That was a media buttfuck decision cause the guy finally got the shit done (even tho he did nothing in the entire playoffs, as well as that game).

Rhodes was that game's MVP.

Meh, like I said Rhodes had a great game and if he had won it I wouldn't have put up a fight but Manning had a great game too IMO. He completely dismantled the Bears passing wise and disected us bit by bit even if it was just going underneath. Honestly, outside of that early pick he played perfectly.

Like I said the one question I had about Rhodes in the game is how many of his yards were a product of the Bears being willing to let the running game beat them but not Manning? Every snap the Bears LB's were dropping hard it seemed and left big holes for Rhodes. Just my two cents. And I'll also frame my comment by saying I'm not a big Manning fan, I never liked him going all the way back to his days in Tennessee. I just think he's a hell of a QB.

[celtsxpatsxsox]

I figured a new board would have some smarter people. I guess not. I brought up the Forte stuff to disprove this one singular idea you had:


So now your standard is player most valuable to their team that made the playoffs?


All of this still doesn't change the fact that I still have yet to see you show anyone here my MVP shouldn't be a piece of the puzzle in who determining the better player is.

I know I always learned to make inferences while reading. Guess you didnt do that. How would a player have value to a team if they werent in the playoffs? BTW you can ask almost all of the original VSN members and half of them will say all the posts I make are educated and contribute to the site.

[Senser81]

I know I always learned to make inferences while reading. Guess you didnt do that. How would a player have value to a team if they werent in the playoffs? BTW you can ask almost all of the original VSN members and half of them will say all the posts I make are educated and contribute to the site.

Wow, then you must really be having a rough week.

[celtsxpatsxsox]

Wow, then you must really be having a rough week.

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[Archer]

At a guess hes saying most of the posts hes seen from you this week are stupid or dont contribute.

Not my opinion just saying what i think his statment ment.

[Senser81]

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OJ Simpson ran for over 2000 yards in 1973 and averaged over 6 yards per carry while QB Joe Ferguson barely threw for over 1000 yards for the season...yet Simpson added nothing of value to his team because the Bills didn't make the playoffs in 1973. Brilliant!

Winning the league MVP, an award based on individual performance, is just as relevant in assessing a player's skills as an award based on team performance (SB ring). Thus, Cliff Stoudt winning 2 Super Bowl rings with the Steelers before ever taking a snap in the NFL is an accurate reflection of how awesome Stoudt was...while Peyton Manning winning league MVP is not noteworthy.

[FirstTimer]

I. How would a player have value to a team if they werent in the playoffs? BTW you can ask almost all of the original VSN members and half of them will say all the posts I make are educated and contribute to the site.

So no player on a team can be valuable to the team if the team doesn't make the playoffs? That's an absolute retarded inference and assertion. You can't even possibly mean what your rhetorical question asked.

I really don't care what the other VSN members opinion of your posts are. All I care about is my opinion based on my dealings with you....and so far it's not high.

[celtsxpatsxsox]

ahhh nothing gets my confidence boosted more than when I question someones intelligents on the internet. Does it feel the same for you?

Now that aside after re reading my posts I might not of been exactly clear in some of my posts and I am sorry for that.
IMO I think the MVP award should go to a player on a playoff team. Not saying you can only be valuable if your team is in the playoffs. I am just saying I think the MVP award should go to a player in the playoffs. I feel the offensive player of the year award goes to a player with the best stats.

[Senser81]

IMO I think the MVP award should go to a player on a playoff team. Not saying you can only be valuable if your team is in the playoffs. I am just saying I think the MVP award should go to a player in the playoffs.

You just described how MVPs have been awarded for the past 100 years in all four major sports leagues. Are you saying that too often MVPs are given to players on teams that don't make the playoffs?

I don't get it.

[FirstTimer]

ahhh nothing gets my confidence boosted more than when I question someones intelligents on the internet. Does it feel the same for you?

Only if there is more than one "gent".................