Texas to TAMU: Sorry, schedule is full

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No one is trying to say Notre Dame plays the toughest schedule in the nation. But to try and argue Notre Dame's schedule on a year in year out basis isn't difficult in relation to every other school is absurd and flat out false.

I did not say that. I said that JayRock was exaggerating how BRUTAL it was. You and he were the ones who directly compared it to LSU's scheduling. I don't think that's a good idea considering LSU is one of the few SEC schools that does go OOC for tough games. And that's all I was saying.

Evaluating a schedule through half the seaosn is always dumb anyways. [/QUOTE]

Yep. Even dumber is comparing that halfway completed schedule to a fictional version of Notre Dame's 2012 schedule that adds Texas and pretends Andrew Luck and Landry Jones will still be around.


In sum - Notre Dame's schedule is not soft or anything but JayRock was exaggerating (in typical JayRock drama queen fashion).

[FirstTimer]

I did not say that. I said that JayRock was exaggerating how BRUTAL it was. You and he were the ones who directly compared it to LSU's scheduling.

And LSU still schedules softies..But I was making a joke and you got all defensive over it and asked if I "really wanted" to go there? Why wouldn't I? Notre Dame's schedule is fine with me. It's difficult enough and it doesn't get any easier coming up.

IMO you went drama queen over a joke about NW St and Western Kentucky.

JayRock has a chance of being right at least. As do you. But to make any judgements for sure until the season has been played is cart before the horse. We will find out after each season.

Evaluating a schedule through half the seaosn is always dumb anyways.

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Yep. Even dumber is comparing that halfway completed schedule to a fictional version of Notre Dame's 2012 schedule that adds Texas and pretends Andrew Luck and Landry Jones will still be around.

Stanford will still be good. I doubt Luck comes back but I believe he could be..He has another year left doesn't he? I really highly doubt Oklahoma falls off that hard with no Jones. They'll just plug in another 5 star guy and carry on with the spread. Good team don't rebuild. They reload.

Michigan and Miami will be interesting and so will USC. I guess we will see in December of 2012.

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And LSU still schedules softies..

Two or three "Rent a wins" per year and still a top 20 SOS every year. And I'm of the belief that elite FCS teams like App. State are just as good at this point as the terrible MAC/Sun Belt schools but that's for another thread.

But I was making a joke and you got all defensive over it and asked if I "really wanted" to go there? Why wouldn't I? Notre Dame's schedule is fine with me. It's difficult enough and it doesn't get any easier coming up.

IMO you went drama queen over a joke about NW St and Western Kentucky.

Probably, but I think it's a lazy and tired comeback. So what if those teams are on the schedule? It's a fucking loaded schedule as is. Excuse us for not adding another token BCS team like Wake or UConn for appearances sake.

As for the rest, I really don't think Notre Dame's schedule is soft and I don't really care to compare it to any other school because it's comparing apples and oranges. JayRock is totally overstating the difficulty of Notre Dame's schedule, IMO.

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Probably, but I think it's a lazy and tired comeback. So what if those teams are on the schedule? It's a fucking loaded schedule as is. Excuse us for not adding another token BCS team like Wake or UConn for appearances sake.

Ok. And you don't think bringing up ND playing Wake, Temple, or UCONN is a tired comeback? Are Wake and UCONN top tier programs? No. But they've both been to BCS games in the last 5 years. NW St, Towson, Western Kentucky haven't been there and won't be there any time soon.

Also, Wake is a great example of preseason expectation/schedules. Prior to this year Maryland looked like a much tougher game than Wake. Right now, that Wake game looks a lot tougher than it did 6 weeks ago etc.

[ryne candy]

Imagine you had a roommate that you didn't get along with all that well, but things were at least civil.

Then, the week before your lease was up, this roommate just started talking major shit to you about everything he hates about you every single day.

On the move out day, this roommate pisses all over your belongings, moves out, and tries to not pay their portion of the cleaning fee for the lease.

Then, you get a call a month later from that same person asking if you want to hang out...

Now tell me: Why in the fuck would you waste your own time spending any time with them?

Making it sound as if A&M leaving hurts Texas. They are doing it because they want to stick it to A&M but might end up looking dumb. I was surprised that A&M actually still wants to play them with SEC schedule they will have. I'm sure we will play them again if OU leaves, since they don't care about Red River SO...lol.

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Making it sound as if A&M leaving hurts Texas.

False. The only thing it hurts is Texas' ability to give the LHN a few years to build itself up. It hurts the B12, but nobody really gives a shit about that.

They are doing it because they want to stick it to A&M but might end up looking dumb.

Maroon-colored glasses, IMO. Maybe they want to stick it to A&M (I'm sure it's at least a small part of it), but there is a 0% chance this ever makes Texas "look dumb". There's no need to play that game ever, history be damned.

I was surprised that A&M actually still wants to play them with SEC schedule they will have. I'm sure we will play them again if OU leaves, since they don't care about Red River SO...lol.

I'm not surprised. B/CS is the epicenter of human delusion.

As for Texas and the idea that "they don't care about the Red River", you couldn't be more wrong. In terms of rivalries, the RRS is the only one the Texas athletic department actually cares about.

Again, enjoy your move to the SEC, but there's no need to be petulant about the grass your team is leaving behind.

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The difference is that Notre Dame never has a week off.

For most programs, the likes of Tulsa and Navy are weeks off.

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Ok. And you don't think bringing up ND playing Wake, Temple, or UCONN is a tired comeback? Are Wake and UCONN top tier programs? No. But they've both been to BCS games in the last 5 years. NW St, Towson, Western Kentucky haven't been there and won't be there any time soon.

That's like saying "VINCE YOUNG IS GOOD BECAUSE HE MADE THE PRO BOWL". Both are mediocre programs and making a BCS bowl is really not much of a feat anymore.

I am not trying to say that Sun Belt or FCS teams are worthy opponents. They aren't, and I'd prefer LSU not play them ever. But even with the occasional cupcake opponent, it's still one of the ten toughest schedules you can find in CFB every year. So why should I care that Notre Dame has to play three or four "name" opponents? As they should, I say.

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False. The only thing it hurts is Texas' ability to give the LHN a few years to build itself up. It hurts the B12, but nobody really gives a shit about that.



Maroon-colored glasses, IMO. Maybe they want to stick it to A&M (I'm sure it's at least a small part of it), but there is a 0% chance this ever makes Texas "look dumb". There's no need to play that game ever, history be damned.



I'm not surprised. B/CS is the epicenter of human delusion.

As for Texas and the idea that "they don't care about the Red River", you couldn't be more wrong. In terms of rivalries, the RRS is the only one the Texas athletic department actually cares about.

Again, enjoy your move to the SEC, but there's no need to be petulant about the grass your team is leaving behind.

They won't even play us in Volleyball. As far as the RVS, I was referring to Stoops saying he
could go without playing Texas every year.

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For most programs, the likes of Tulsa and Navy are weeks off.

I guess that's what South Carolina thought during the week they prepared for Navy. You're asking for trouble if you don't take a triple option team seriously defensively.

[Sharkweather]

You're asking for trouble if you don't take a triple option team seriously defensively.

[FirstTimer]

That's like saying "VINCE YOUNG IS GOOD BECAUSE HE MADE THE PRO BOWL". Both are mediocre programs and making a BCS bowl is really not much of a feat anymore.

No it's not like saying that at all. Wake Forest and UCOINN won conferences to get in. Vince Young was voted in by the fans.

Terrible comparison to draw.

Furthermore I wasn't making that big a deal of it but comparing ND scheduling "token" BCS schools that have actually made BCS bowls to scheduling the likes of NW ST, Towson, and Western Kentucky is laughable. If you can't see the distinction I don't know what to tell you.

I am not trying to say that Sun Belt or FCS teams are worthy opponents.

Duh.

They aren't, and I'd prefer LSU not play them ever. But even with the occasional cupcake opponent, it's still one of the ten toughest schedules you can find in CFB every year. So why should I care that Notre Dame has to play three or four "name" opponents? As they should, I say.

No one is saying you should "care", but taking shots at playing Temple, UCONN, Wake, etc is pretty retarded to do when they are at least BCS eligible schools when LSU is scheduling double directional FCS teams

Is Notre Dame schedule on a year in year out basis as tough as LSU's has been recently? No. But I really don't care. ND's schedule is more than tough enough where I really don't think a game or two a season against a "token" BCS team is that big of a deal. All I'm worried about is if ND is as good as those teams at the top..and they will be sooner than later. At that point the SOS becomes moot because they will be playing upper tier teams in bowl games, and even during the regular season like they are the next 5-6 seasons.

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Fun stat(feel free to double check). According to the Saragin rankings; since 2000 Notre Dame's avg SOS is about 20. LSU 28.

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Fun stat(feel free to double check). According to the Saragin rankings; since 2000 Notre Dame's avg SOS is about 20. LSU 28.

Fun stat ... Notre Dame has lost most of those games. No wonder you guys consider it to be brutal.

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Fun stat ... Notre Dame has lost most of those games.

Never argued or implied otherwise. So that is besides the point.