Carson Palmer traded to Oakland and "fans of shitty teams try to outshit each other"

[BigBucs]

I also forgot trade a stud HB for a 3rd string QB.

As for Palmer, the guy gets way more criticism than he deserves.

His career stats aren't bad at all - 154 TDs, 100 INTs, 86.9 QB rating, 62.9% completion.

Considering that he has played in the toughest defensive division in the NFL over the last 10 years for a team that routinely lacks talent and you have a guy who has pretty good career stats.

His record is 46-51, but like I said, he played for the Bengals and was constantly competing with the Ravens and Steelers, who are both good to great year in and year out.

I dont think anyone has a beef with Carson's career numbers. The beef is how bad he has been post knee injury. He has been pretty bad since. Oak fucked themselves over with this trade. You should be pretty pissed.

[dave]

I also forgot trade a stud HB for a 3rd string QB.

As for Palmer, the guy gets way more criticism than he deserves.

His career stats aren't bad at all - 154 TDs, 100 INTs, 86.9 QB rating, 62.9% completion.

Considering that he has played in the toughest defensive division in the NFL over the last 10 years for a team that routinely lacks talent and you have a guy who has pretty good career stats.

His record is 46-51, but like I said, he played for the Bengals and was constantly competing with the Ravens and Steelers, who are both good to great year in and year out.

They still overpaid in a big way.
Is Palmer even a top-15 NFL quarterback?
This trade shows why the Raiders need to be sold and a proper management group put in place.

[Kuzzy Powers]

Listen, obviously the Raiders overpaid big time, but they are in a position to make the playoffs and they're obviously in a win now mentality. Im not sure with the conditions are on the 2nd 1st rounder, but if the Raiders win the division and win a playoff game with this talent, is it not utlimately worth the move for the Franchise? If Palmer can come in and manage the game and lead the Raiders to some success the price really becomes irrelevant. Its not as if the Raiders obviously didnt attempt to acquire for less (or god id assume any GM would atleast try to). Oakland was put in a bad spot with Campbell's injury and they did what they had to to get a legit NFL starting QB behind center.

And LMFAO @ all the people who were saying Palmer wouldnt even warrant a 4th or better in the off-season btw. @ anyone who doesnt appreciate the value of a quality serviceable starting QB in the NFL.

[Kuzzy Powers]

Hi. Welcome to professional sports discussion among rival fan bases.

It goes beyond rival fan bases and it doesnt make it any less retarded lol. Rebutting with something to actually defend your squad would be ideal, altho I would see how that could be difficult for some teams.

[BigBucs]

And LMFAO @ all the people who were saying Palmer wouldnt even warrant a 4th or better in the off-season btw. @ anyone who doesnt appreciate the value of a quality serviceable starting QB in the NFL.

He didnt and everyone will soon see. He is 31, the Bengals getting what they got was a direct reflection of how shitty a GM they have there in Oakland. Is he a "quality" or "serviceable" starting QB? Cant be both. I damn sure wouldnt be throwing away 1st rounders for a QB who is just serviceable.

[Kuzzy Powers]

He didnt and everyone will soon see. He is 31, the Bengals getting what they got was a direct reflection of how shitty a GM they have there in Oakland. Is he a "quality" or "serviceable" starting QB? Cant be both. I damn sure wouldnt be throwing away 1st rounders for a QB who is just serviceable.

I actually had written quality at first, and erased it to "serviceable", or atleast I thought I erased it.

People were saying in the off-season the Bengals wouldnt even get a 4th for dude, and they bagged 2 1st's.. and the ONLY thing it goes to show you is how much starting QBs are valued in the NFL, even mediocre ones. Noone should've ever doubted that.

[Hasselbeck]

I thought the trade value for franchise QBs was set by the Charlie Whitehurst deal?

 

See Hass, I can play this game too.

Whitehurst has as many playoff wins as Carson Palmer

[NAHSTE]

Someone change this thread title to "fans of shitty teams try out shit each other"

[OnlyOneBeerLeft]

Panthers... gimmie something good, and then maybe I'll just multi-quote what everybody else has said to you Glen... I don't have the time to reply lol

[Hasselbeck]

Someone change this thread title to "fans of shitty teams try out shit each other"

Done.

[Woy]

Titans. Don't post the Dyson pic or there will be consequences. :pissed:

[Cornelius]

Pretty clear now that Al wasn't the reason the Raiders were making shitty moves the last several years.

[Aso]

So when is Palmer even ready to go? 2 weeks?

Kyle Boller could have this team at .500 and 4 games behind San Diego by then.

Home against Chiefs (Chiefs blow) and then a bye week. Palmer will be ready for the Broncos after the bye.

[Anthony]

Giants.

[mgoblue2290]

When I saw the thread title had "fans of shitty teams trying to outshit each other" in the title, I readied my age old Lions are the worst team ever arguments. I was prepared to swat away any teams challenging for our title until I remembered we are 5-1 and no longer in the bread line.