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  • FirstTimer
    Freeman Error

    • Feb 2009
    • 18729

    #16
    Originally posted by NAHSTE
    I have always hated the NCAA overtime system. Would rather them just play two separate five minute halves with two kickoffs. That way both teams are guaranteed to get possession via a normal football play.

    That said, last night's game was awesome and anyone who complained that it was boring deserves to get kicked in the dick. Agree with the OP though, college OT has always sucked.
    Only watched the OT



    #IrishSwag

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    • Warner2BruceTD
      2011 Poster Of The Year
      • Mar 2009
      • 26142

      #17
      Originally posted by JayRock
      That's quite a leap.
      No it's not.

      College OT fundamentally changes the objectives of the game. You are no longer playing the same game you were playing the previous 60 minutes. You are eliminating kickoffs & punts, and the teams are placed into scoring position. It's not a leap at all to compare that to starting a baseball inning with men on base, it's actually exactly the same.

      JUST. PLAY. THE. GAME. Get rid of the gimmick.

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      • Chrispy
        Needs a hobby
        • Dec 2008
        • 11403

        #18
        They should at least make it so the team HAS to get into FG and not already be in it.......

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        • FirstTimer
          Freeman Error

          • Feb 2009
          • 18729

          #19
          Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
          No it's not.

          College OT fundamentally changes the objectives of the game. You are no longer playing the same game you were playing the previous 60 minutes. You are eliminating kickoffs & punts, and the teams are placed into scoring position. It's not a leap at all to compare that to starting a baseball inning with men on base, it's actually exactly the same.

          JUST. PLAY. THE. GAME. Get rid of the gimmick.
          The party I was at had a couple hockey fans who were trying to be hockey and they brought up how hockey doesn't have a lame OT system. I just laughed at them and had to point out hockey gets it right for about 5 minutes then it's the equivalent of a basketball free throw shooting contest.

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          • NAHSTE
            Probably owns the site
            • Feb 2009
            • 22233

            #20
            W2B, do you like my proposal? The clock will be set to 5:00, team A kicks to team B, the two teams then exchange punts or scores or do whatever else for the next 5 minutes, then the buzzer sounds, the clock is set back to 5:00, and we line back up for another kickoff, where team B kicks to team A. Whoever is winning at the end of the 10 minute OT period is the winner. If it's tied, we do another 10 minutes with sudden death.

            Takes just as long, but preserves the actual rules. Both teams get a fair shot with at least one guaranteed possession, and both teams continue to play real football.

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            • Atlas
              BRACK FRIDAY BUNDURU!!!!!
              • Feb 2010
              • 7949

              #21
              Originally posted by NAHSTE
              W2B, do you like my proposal? The clock will be set to 5:00, team A kicks to team B, the two teams then exchange punts or scores or do whatever else for the next 5 minutes, then the buzzer sounds, the clock is set back to 5:00, and we line back up for another kickoff, where team B kicks to team A. Whoever is winning at the end of the 10 minute OT period is the winner. If it's tied, we do another 10 minutes with sudden death.

              Takes just as long, but preserves the actual rules. Both teams get a fair shot with at least one guaranteed possession, and both teams continue to play real football.
              too logical for the NCAA...

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              • Warner2BruceTD
                2011 Poster Of The Year
                • Mar 2009
                • 26142

                #22
                Originally posted by FirstTimer
                The party I was at had a couple hockey fans who were trying to be hockey and they brought up how hockey doesn't have a lame OT system. I just laughed at them and had to point out hockey gets it right for about 5 minutes then it's the equivalent of a basketball free throw shooting contest.
                I can give hockey and soccer a break, because such a high percentage of games end in a tie. So if you want to eliminate ties, they kinda have no choice. It sucks, especially in a Stanley Cup final or World Cup situation, but what can you do?

                But in football, the likelihood of a tie is so rare, that there is no reason to contrive a gimmick ending to ensure a result. The NFL has ties, and you maybe get one or two per decade.

                For me, the OT killed the ending of the LSU/Bama game, and from a dramatic perspective hurt the drama. I would have rather seen one of the teams earn a real score to win the game.

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                • DSpydr84
                  I need a sub
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 2605

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                  Here's a suggested change. Why not just kick the fucking ball off and play real football?

                  I will never understand why people defend college OT. Are you in favor of a three point shoot out for basketball OT? How about when baseball goes extra innings, we load up the bases at the start of every inning?
                  Despite you not being in favor of this - and I do see your point - I think this is an amazing idea.

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                  • Warner2BruceTD
                    2011 Poster Of The Year
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 26142

                    #24
                    Originally posted by NAHSTE
                    W2B, do you like my proposal? The clock will be set to 5:00, team A kicks to team B, the two teams then exchange punts or scores or do whatever else for the next 5 minutes, then the buzzer sounds, the clock is set back to 5:00, and we line back up for another kickoff, where team B kicks to team A. Whoever is winning at the end of the 10 minute OT period is the winner. If it's tied, we do another 10 minutes with sudden death.

                    Takes just as long, but preserves the actual rules. Both teams get a fair shot with at least one guaranteed possession, and both teams continue to play real football.
                    I'd prefer anything that results in real football being played, and especially anything that promises a possession for both sides.

                    Personally, I would just prefer CFB & NFL play a 15 minute 5th Q, with the game being over once both teams have completed a possession and someone is winning.

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                    • FirstTimer
                      Freeman Error

                      • Feb 2009
                      • 18729

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                      I can give hockey and soccer a break, because such a high percentage of games end in a tie. So if you want to eliminate ties, they kinda have no choice. It sucks, especially in a Stanley Cup final or World Cup situation, but what can you do?
                      .
                      In hockey don't the Playoffs allow for unlimited OT's?

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                      • Warner2BruceTD
                        2011 Poster Of The Year
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 26142

                        #26
                        Originally posted by FirstTimer
                        In hockey don't the Playoffs allow for unlimited OT's?
                        I honestly have no idea, i'm sure one of the NHL guys will answer this.

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                        • ZoneBlitz
                          .
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 1844

                          #27
                          Originally posted by JayRock
                          Nope. I watch the NFL every Sunday but I'd much rather watch to unranked teams go at it in NCAA football than 95% of NFL games (not including the Bears). I'd maybe rather watch a Pats/Colts game when it was a big rivalry but outside of that, college football all day.
                          It kills me whenever people say "games wouldnt be meaningful if they had a playoff", people still go crazy about college basketball games and they have a tournament that invites 65 fuckin teams, not to mention a conference tournament beforehand, it doesnt get anymore meaningless than that.

                          You dont need a shitty ass system in order to make big games worth watching.

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                          • NAHSTE
                            Probably owns the site
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 22233

                            #28
                            Originally posted by FirstTimer
                            In hockey don't the Playoffs allow for unlimited OT's?
                            They do, and those games are always fucking incredible to watch.

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                            • Tengo Juego
                              Posts a lot
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 4289

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                              I'd prefer anything that results in real football being played, and especially anything that promises a possession for both sides.

                              Personally, I would just prefer CFB & NFL play a 15 minute 5th Q, with the game being over once both teams have completed a possession and someone is winning.
                              Why not just play an extra quarter, with no possession or first to score rules? Just that, an extra quarter. Not really sure why the game has to be over as fast as possible.

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                              • Warner2BruceTD
                                2011 Poster Of The Year
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 26142

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Tengo Juego
                                Why not just play an extra quarter, with no possession or first to score rules? Just that, an extra quarter. Not really sure why the game has to be over as fast as possible.
                                I'd be fine with that, but people will cite 'safety' concerns (which is total bullshit on like a thousand levels, but that's not something I want to get into), and the 'excitement' factor.

                                I can buy the excitement factor, because at the end of the day sports is the entertainment business, but not at the expense of the integrity of the game. CFB OT prostitutes the game.

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