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  • RosettaStoned
    Throbbing Tebowner
    • Oct 2008
    • 9951

    #31
    Even Boldin drops the ball frequently.
    So, metaphorically speaking, our physiology basically has the universe mapped out and you're thinking it needs to be taught addition & subtraction.

    -Alan Aragon

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    • RosettaStoned
      Throbbing Tebowner
      • Oct 2008
      • 9951

      #32
      I'm done talking up Flacco, fuck him.
      So, metaphorically speaking, our physiology basically has the universe mapped out and you're thinking it needs to be taught addition & subtraction.

      -Alan Aragon

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      • shag773
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2009
        • 2721

        #33
        In defense of Sanchez's numbers vs Flacco, if you're going to bring up his below average regular season numbers, you also have to consider his above average/good post season numbers as well.

        6 Games 60.5% Comp PCT 9TD 3INT 94.3 Passer RTG

        Flacco's Post Season Numbers

        7 Games 53.3% Comp PCT 4TD 7INT 61.6 Passer RTG

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        • jms493
          Junior Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 11248

          #34
          Originally posted by shag773
          In defense of Sanchez's numbers vs Flacco, if you're going to bring up his below average regular season numbers, you also have to consider his above average/good post season numbers as well.

          6 Games 60.5% Comp PCT 9TD 3INT 94.3 Passer RTG

          Flacco's Post Season Numbers

          7 Games 53.3% Comp PCT 4TD 7INT 61.6 Passer RTG
          It also seems that the Jets are SUPER conservative with Sanchize in the playoffs but hey it works......till the AFC Championship game at least.

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          • ThomasTomasz
            • Nov 2024

            #35
            Originally posted by Senser81
            Yeah, he's looked terrible this year, especially against teams that aren't any good. Here is what I think...Flacco had success in 2010, and the Ravens looked to expand Flacco's role in the offense a little more. But, the Ravens lost Heap (Flacco's go-to guy when healthy), they got rid of Derrick Mason, signed a completely ineffective Lee Evans, and now start stonehands Torrey Smith at WR. The Ravens took a big step backwards in terms of receiving corps, yet they still want Flacco to play a prominent role.
            That about sums it up. You take guys who were reliable targets, and that means you can't move the chains. That is what the Ravens struggle with in the passing game- the intermediate throws that you use to get first downs. Stupid decision to get rid of both Mason and Heap.

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            • Senser81
              VSN Poster of the Year
              • Feb 2009
              • 12804

              #36
              Originally posted by shag773
              In defense of Sanchez's numbers vs Flacco, if you're going to bring up his below average regular season numbers, you also have to consider his above average/good post season numbers as well.

              6 Games 60.5% Comp PCT 9TD 3INT 94.3 Passer RTG

              Flacco's Post Season Numbers

              7 Games 53.3% Comp PCT 4TD 7INT 61.6 Passer RTG
              It was said that Flacco isn't having a down year, he is having a typical Flacco year. I showed that it wasn't typical. I also showed that Sanchez is having a typical Sanchez year.

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              • jms493
                Junior Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 11248

                #37
                CHIZE

                2009 playoffs
                CIN win 12/15 182 1 TD
                SD win 17-14 12/23 100 1 TD 1 INT
                IND loss 17/30 257 2 TD 1 INT

                2010 playoffs
                IND win 18/31 189 1 INT
                NE win 16/25 194 3 TD
                PIT loss 20/33 2 TD

                IMO he had 1 good playoff game and that was against the Pats.

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                • shag773
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 2721

                  #38
                  Originally posted by jms493
                  It also seems that the Jets are SUPER conservative with Sanchize in the playoffs but hey it works......till the AFC Championship game at least.
                  I think super conservative would be over stating things a bit, but I get what you are saying.

                  You also have to take into account the fact that in those 6 playoff games, 0 of them were at home. So in enviornments like that, I would think playing it closer to the vest would have been the way to go. But I don't think his play was being "hidden" in those games for the most part.

                  To be honest I thought the game he played in the AFC Championship last year was one of the better if not the best game I'd seen him play.

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                  • jms493
                    Junior Member
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 11248

                    #39
                    Originally posted by shag773
                    You also have to take into account the fact that in those 6 playoff games, 0 of them were at home. So in enviornments like that, I would think playing it closer to the vest would have been the way to go. But I don't think his play was being "hidden" in those games for the most part..
                    This is true....i forgot about that so he does get some bonus points for that.

                    He is a serviceable guy but should be farther along if he want to be a top NFL QB. Look at Dalton and Newton they are already beyond Mark.....which is amazing actually.

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                    • Tailback U
                      No substitute 4 strength.
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 10282

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Senser81
                      It was said that Flacco isn't having a down year, he is having a typical Flacco year. I showed that it wasn't typical. I also showed that Sanchez is having a typical Sanchez year.
                      Flacco had a much better year last season than I thought before looking at his stats. 25 TDs and 10 INTs is impressive.

                      I guess I just forget about his regular season stats because the last thing I see of him is an average or shitty playoff performance every year. Hard to remember when he gets to the playoffs, plays like shit, and looks like he doesn't have a clue about what's going on.

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                      • shag773
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 2721

                        #41
                        Originally posted by jms493
                        CHIZE

                        2009 playoffs
                        CIN win 12/15 182 1 TD
                        SD win 17-14 12/23 100 1 TD 1 INT
                        IND loss 17/30 257 2 TD 1 INT

                        2010 playoffs
                        IND win 18/31 189 1 INT
                        NE win 16/25 194 3 TD
                        PIT loss 20/33 2 TD

                        IMO he had 1 good playoff game and that was against the Pats.
                        The Pitt game he had a good game, and the Cincy game you can at least label as solid.

                        Originally posted by jms493
                        This is true....i forgot about that so he does get some bonus points for that.

                        He is a serviceable guy but should be farther along if he want to be a top NFL QB. Look at Dalton and Newton they are already beyond Mark.....which is amazing actually.
                        I don't think they are beyond Mark at this point. Dalton's number's are almost identical to Sanchez's. Cam Newton is playing well beyond what people thought, but is still very raw. They might be better than Mark at some point, but if I was going into a playoff game and had to choose between the three, I would take Sanchez right now.

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                        • ZoneBlitz
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                          • Feb 2009
                          • 1844

                          #42
                          Originally posted by jms493
                          This is true....i forgot about that so he does get some bonus points for that.

                          He is a serviceable guy but should be farther along if he want to be a top NFL QB. Look at Dalton and Newton they are already beyond Mark.....which is amazing actually.
                          QBs in todays game are ready to step in the first year, the whole theory of giving QBs years to develop is of the past. I think Dalton has said his transition to the NFL was alot easier than he expected.

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                          • jms493
                            Junior Member
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 11248

                            #43
                            Originally posted by ZoneblitZ
                            QBs in todays game are ready to step in the first year, the whole theory of giving QBs years to develop is of the past. I think Dalton has said his transition to the NFL was alot easier than he expected.
                            well the league is getting more and more passer friendly each year so it is to be expected but there are still guys out there who are struggling hard.

                            I guess if you good you wont need the 2-3 years anymore. Puts alot of pressure on Mr Luck.

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                            • Mogriffjr
                              aka Reece
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 2759

                              #44
                              Originally posted by jms493
                              It also seems that the Jets are SUPER conservative with Sanchize in the playoffs but hey it works......till the AFC Championship game at least.
                              That's how this offense is...it's super conservative all the way around...playoffs, regular season, preseason, practice...

                              His numbers are skewed a bit by that horrific Ravens game where they had a undrafted rookie playing center against a top 5 defense and he was destroyed...

                              then his best deep threat in Braylon Edwards is gone for someone who's a better possession type WR/endzone WR in Plaxico and he just got back into shape.

                              Losing 3rd down beast in Cotchery, deep threat Edwards didn't help. Replacing him by the waste that was Mason and Plax who didnt' play in years hurt the passing game early, especially when they wanted to open the passing game up.

                              He seems to have a better rapport with his WR's now, plax is much better now than earlier, and Kerley is a MUCH better slot option than Mason.
                              Originally posted by Nick Mangold
                              Wes Welker is a great player. He's really taken advantage of watching film. If we don't keep a Spy on him, he could really open the Gate.

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                              • Mogriffjr
                                aka Reece
                                • Apr 2009
                                • 2759

                                #45
                                Originally posted by ZoneblitZ
                                QBs in todays game are ready to step in the first year, the whole theory of giving QBs years to develop is of the past. I think Dalton has said his transition to the NFL was alot easier than he expected.
                                Dalton came into the league and I believe he started all 4 years he played, he came in with a wealth of knowledge about defenses and tons of reps on the field.

                                Sanchez played sparingly his SO year and 1 full year...possibly him and Dalton have taken close to the same amount of snaps college and NFL right now...Sanchez was a raw prospect who was thrown into the fire early and played through his struggles/success.
                                Originally posted by Nick Mangold
                                Wes Welker is a great player. He's really taken advantage of watching film. If we don't keep a Spy on him, he could really open the Gate.

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