Report: Mike Bush being shopped...

[Prodigal Son]

I find it amusing that most of the people that criticize Raider players have probably only seen a handful of Raider games over the past 5 years (since they always suck and are never on TV).

Michael Bush is going to be really good once he learns how to play at an NFL level. In all honesty, I think he is the best pure running back on the Raiders roster right now. I don't know what the Raiders will get for him but anything less than a 2nd rounder would be disappointing, IMO.

I honestly would not want the Raiders to trade Bush for a 3rd round pick and that is because I have seen the guy play, unlike most of the people in this thread.

I think last year was the first year they weren't on TV every damn week up here in Seattle.

The previous season, EVERY game was aired here.

Bush won't get a first day pick. People know the Raiders have a log jam at RB, they're not feeling rushed to jack the price up for him. They might get 2 draft picks, but they'll be 4th and later.

[Prodigal Son]

Good cause the Raider dont need fans who are going to cry if they get groaned on the internet

Nah, what the Raiders need are people with their frontal lobes missing.

[Rush]

I've always been a fan of Michael Bush, didn't know he had 177 yards in the finale against Tampa Bay. Glad to see he has rehabbed, I wouldn't mind him coming to the Bears to spell Forte.

[Raidersabc123]

This dude can run. I was at thAt game vs the bucs, and watched him run all over them. Dude can do just about everything, and I think the raiders made the mistake of keeping fargas over him. Don't give me that shit about fargas being a great 3rd down back because mcfadden should be doing that with his speed. You have a 1-2 punch of Fad and Bush, and just work bush's hands in training. Fuck fargas keep bush, work the run, get the receivers some space.

I think every Raider fan wants to keep Bush instead of Fargas its just we cant trade Fargas cause nobody wants him if it was up to me I would keep Bush

[corbin]

I'd take Bush for a third rounder. Second rounder is maybe pushing it but I would love to see the Cardinals pursue him.

Arizona most likely will have to use their first rounder on a pass rusher, as they lost 3 OLB/DE's in free agency this year. Unless Moreno or Beanie(can't see it happening) drops to our laps. I could see a Cardinals swapping a 2nd or 3rd rounder for Bush.

[Herm]

I find it amusing that most of the people that criticize Raider players have probably only seen a handful of Raider games over the past 5 years (since they always suck and are never on TV).

Michael Bush is going to be really good once he learns how to play at an NFL level. In all honesty, I think he is the best pure running back on the Raiders roster right now. I don't know what the Raiders will get for him but anything less than a 2nd rounder would be disappointing, IMO.

I honestly would not want the Raiders to trade Bush for a 3rd round pick and that is because I have seen the guy play, unlike most of the people in this thread.

Ive saw Bush play in HS, College, and the NFL. He was one of the most dominant HS football players i ever saw. He is a decent back but I was just saying the way NFL teams put so much value on picks I doubt they'd get a 2 from anyone. Randy Moss brought a 4th rounder, Steve McNair brought a 7th rounder, Kellen Winslow a 2 and a 5th rounder. Bush isnt in the same class with those guys in my eyes.

[Tailback U]

I think last year was the first year they weren't on TV every damn week up here in Seattle.

The previous season, EVERY game was aired here.

Bush won't get a first day pick. People know the Raiders have a log jam at RB, they're not feeling rushed to jack the price up for him. They might get 2 draft picks, but they'll be 4th and later.

This year was the first year that Michael Bush has been healthy. Prior to this past season, he didn't even play, so even if you got to see the Raiders play two seasons ago you didn't see Michael Bush play. So for you to sit there and act like you have seen the guy play is a bunch of horse shit.

Either way, Justin Fargas is going to be 30 years old by the time the 2009 season starts. His future is not looking too bright, there is no way the Raiders give up Bush for next to nothing when Fargas' days are numbered. The Raiders aren't as stacked as everyone seems to think because Fargas has 1, maybe 2, years left in him.

I wonder if Louis Rankin has anything to do with this situation though. Rankin showed flashes of dynamite at Washington and in the pre-season last year. I really think he has the talent to see playing time but he's behind 3 guys right now. I wouldn't be surprised to see him move up the depth chart should Bush or Fargas be let go.

[Hasselbeck]

I would gladly take Michael Bush for a 3rd rounder.

[Tailback U]

Call me a dumb ass Raider fan all you want, but I really think Michael Bush is just as good as any of the backs coming out of college this season. I am probably letting the combine affect my opinion on guys like Moreno and Wells, but I don't see how anybody could see those guys as hands down better than Bush - who looked just as good as all of them while at Louisville (when he was healthy).

And let's not underestimate or undervalue the combination of a guy like Bush with Darren McFadden. Hopefully the Raiders know what these two are capable of, we're talking about the HB position being set in stone for the next 5-10 seasons with these two in the backfield.

The Bucs are reportedly interested in Bush:

The Bucs are reportedly interested in making a trade for Raiders RB Michael Bush.
Bush needs to find some, any way out of Oakland, where they're trying to turn him into a fullback. The Bucs would likely give him a chance to compete for substantial early-down carries. Tampa Bay is also installing a zone-blocking scheme, which Bush became familiar with as a Raider.

http://www.pewterreport.com/articles/view/5263

[NAHSTE]

Why does everyone at VSN think their teams are gonna get 2nd round picks in any trade scenario they come up with?

Bush is gonna be a good back, and the Raiders should keep him IMO. But he does have more trade value than Fargas. I could see getting a 4th for him, maaaaybe 3rd, but in a league where Randy Moss goes for a 4th rounder, you're gonna be hard pressed to get a first-day pick in a trade.

[Tailback U]

Why does everyone at VSN think their teams are gonna get 2nd round picks in any trade scenario they come up with?

Bush is gonna be a good back, and the Raiders should keep him IMO. But he does have more trade value than Fargas. I could see getting a 4th for him, maaaaybe 3rd, but in a league where Randy Moss goes for a 4th rounder, you're gonna be hard pressed to get a first-day pick in a trade.

I understand what you're saying, but the point here is that the Raiders don't need to give Bush up for a 3rd rounder. They aren't hard pressed to get rid of Bush like they were Moss. They aren't trying to get rid of Bush just for the sake of getting rid of him, they are only going to get rid of him if they get the better end of the deal, which is why I don't think he's going to go for a 3rd rounder.

Moss was an entirely different situation and a mistake that the Raiders organization surely does not want to make again.

[Raidersabc123]

Why does everyone at VSN think their teams are gonna get 2nd round picks in any trade scenario they come up with?

Bush is gonna be a good back, and the Raiders should keep him IMO. But he does have more trade value than Fargas. I could see getting a 4th for him, maaaaybe 3rd, but in a league where Randy Moss goes for a 4th rounder, you're gonna be hard pressed to get a first-day pick in a trade.

Moss was a whole different situation the Raiders were going to get rid of Moss and everyone knew thats why he was for low value

[ChemTheThriller]

I used to use this mofo as my QB @ Louisville in my online league... and he was good lol

[Herm]

I used to use this mofo as my QB @ Louisville in my online league... and he was good lol

He played qb in high school(along with rb, db and p) lol

[Prodigal Son]

This year was the first year that Michael Bush has been healthy. Prior to this past season, he didn't even play, so even if you got to see the Raiders play two seasons ago you didn't see Michael Bush play. So for you to sit there and act like you have seen the guy play is a bunch of horse shit.

Either way, Justin Fargas is going to be 30 years old by the time the 2009 season starts. His future is not looking too bright, there is no way the Raiders give up Bush for next to nothing when Fargas' days are numbered. The Raiders aren't as stacked as everyone seems to think because Fargas has 1, maybe 2, years left in him.

I wonder if Louis Rankin has anything to do with this situation though. Rankin showed flashes of dynamite at Washington and in the pre-season last year. I really think he has the talent to see playing time but he's behind 3 guys right now. I wouldn't be surprised to see him move up the depth chart should Bush or Fargas be let go.

My point is that Bush looks great right now. But as you said, HE FINALLY WAS HEALTHY. Shit, I wish the 49ers would have drafted him. But, I don't see teams being so desperate for a running back that they're going to give a 2nd round pick to a guy who only played really, in one game.