Everyone Getting Fired

[Bomberooski]

To be fair, that Wazzou program is ridiculously difficult to re-build at...

I thought the feeling was they were turning the corner, especially after the Arizona State game...I mean, they won four games when their best player didn't play all season...

But then again, not sure how Wulff's relationship is with the Wazzou AD and administration...if it sucks, no wonder he was fired. If it was good, his firing is a bit queer. I don't think they were that far off from a bowl game this year.

The players sort of like him but he isn't all that great in the community which you kind of need to be when you are losing.

[Senser81]

The Turner Gill firing is odd. He had only been there two years, and he redshirted everyone he recruited in year 1, so he had only one year with any of the players he recruited. What does Kansas expect?

[Sportsbuck]

Ohio State let go of their whole coaching staff tonight. Fickell gunna go coach at Akron.

Negative on both counts.

[Atlas]

The Turner Gill firing is odd. He had only been there two years, and he redshirted everyone he recruited in year 1, so he had only one year with any of the players he recruited. What does Kansas expect?

KU never should have bowed to Roy Williams will... their firing of Allen Bohl set the football program back another 10 years (especially after then ran Mangino out)... they are gonna have to make a splash and bring in a highish profile coach to salvage this mess...

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Negative on both counts.

Is Fickell staying at Ohio State?

I figured Akron's pecking order is

1) Tressell
2) Fickell
3) some bum

[Sportsbuck]

Is Fickell staying at Ohio State?

I figured Akron's pecking order is

1) Tressell
2) Fickell
3) some bum

Met with Meyer this morning before Meyer signed his contract.

Since that discussion, word is that he's staying on. Bill Greene (aka The Bank) confirmed it.

No clue yet as to whether that's as AHC, DC, or LB coach. tOSU is throwing a lot of money around for assistants... Ianello got paid 300k per year at Akron, Fickell will likely get a deal somewhere between $500k and $700k here.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Met with Meyer this morning before Meyer signed his contract.

Since that discussion, word is that he's staying on. Bill Greene (aka The Bank) confirmed it.

No clue yet as to whether that's as AHC, DC, or LB coach. tOSU is throwing a lot of money around for assistants... Ianello got paid 300k per year at Akron, Fickell will likely get a deal somewhere between $500k and $700k here.

Then, for Akron, I guess it'd be Paul Winters.

[NAHSTE]

The Turner Gill firing is odd. He had only been there two years, and he redshirted everyone he recruited in year 1, so he had only one year with any of the players he recruited. What does Kansas expect?

They were awful this year though. Like losing games to average teams by 50 points awful. In their 11 games vs. FBS competition, they were remotely competitive in just three of them.

Here's their season:


W v. McNeese State 42-24
W v. Northern Illinois 45-42
L @ Georgia Tech 66-24
L v. Texas Tech 45-34
L @ Okla. State 70-28
L v. Oklahoma 47-17
L v Kansas State 59-21
L @ Texas 43-0
L @ Iowa State 13-10
L v Baylor 31-30
L @ Texas A&M 61-7
L v. Missouri 24-10

[Senser81]

They were awful this year though. Like losing games to average teams by 50 points awful. In their 11 games vs. FBS competition, they were remotely competitive in just three of them.

Here's their season:


W v. McNeese State 42-24
W v. Northern Illinois 45-42
L @ Georgia Tech 66-24
L v. Texas Tech 45-34
L @ Okla. State 70-28
L v. Oklahoma 47-17
L v Kansas State 59-21
L @ Texas 43-0
L @ Iowa State 13-10
L v Baylor 31-30
L @ Texas A&M 61-7
L v. Missouri 24-10

I'm sorry, is that different from any other year of Kansas football? I really don't know. Just seeking clarification.

[FirstTimer]

Two years seems like a pretty quick hook when Gil took over a shitty team to begin with.

[NAHSTE]

I'm sorry, is that different from any other year of Kansas football? I really don't know. Just seeking clarification.

That's a good point. Considering the guy they fired was the ONLY coach to ever have success there, it was probably a bit short sighted of KU to do so.

(So what if he was a huge prick who berated/verbally abused his players?)

[FirstTimer]

That's a good point. Considering the guy they fired was the ONLY coach to ever have success there, it was probably a bit short sighted of KU to do so.

(So what if he was a huge prick who berated/verbally abused his players?)

[godspeed]

They were awful this year though. Like losing games to average teams by 50 points awful. In their 11 games vs. FBS competition, they were remotely competitive in just three of them.

Here's their season:


W v. McNeese State 42-24
W v. Northern Illinois 45-42
L @ Georgia Tech 66-24
L v. Texas Tech 45-34
L @ Okla. State 70-28
L v. Oklahoma 47-17
L v Kansas State 59-21
L @ Texas 43-0
L @ Iowa State 13-10
L v Baylor 31-30
L @ Texas A&M 61-7
L v. Missouri 24-10

They were bad last year as well. Gill was the 5th highest paid coach in the Big 12, slightly ahead of Mike Gundy. He had 3 years left so Kansas has to buyout the 6 million dollars left on the contract since I believe it was guaranteed.

It's crazy the money just being thrown around by programs. But I guess going rate for a head coach at a major football program is 2 mill a season. Although Snyder isn't getting that quite that at K-State.

[NAHSTE]

It's crazy the money just being thrown around by programs. But I guess going rate for a head coach at a major football program is 2 mill a season. Although Snyder isn't getting that quite that at K-State.

Yeah it is insane. Derek Dooley has a $8 million dollar buy out. He's been paid $2.25 M per SEC win so far. Mike Sherman's buy out is around $5 M.

Saban, Miles, Stoops, etc. broke the coaching salary structure and now shitty coaches are getting paid what Saban earned as the highest paid coach in 2003.

[Rivers17ncsu]

I'm sorry, is that different from any other year of Kansas football? I really don't know. Just seeking clarification.

The five years before Gill Kansas was 38-23 including 3 bowl wins, one being a BCS Bowl win. One of those five years they went 6-6 but didn't go to a bowl and then the last they went 5-7. So yes Gill going 2-10 (0-9) and getting raped most games is different than some other years of Kansas football.


I'm not saying they should have fired Gill, I think all coaches should get 4-5 years usually. However Gill has only had one winning season ever in six years and the year he did his key players were players recruited by the past coach. I understand he has coached at Buffalo and Kansas which is definitely harder to win at, but is Gill maybe not as good of a HC as everyone thought he was after upsetting Ball State for the MAC Title?