Jerry Jones will not give up GM role

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

As said earlier considering the wealth of talent ,successful drafts and late round/undrafted free agent hits you can hardly not knock decisions as gm.

However his loyalty to vets ( like terence newman and jason garrett) and his refusal to hire tough coaches continues to be detrimental to the team.

[Houston]

It's entertaining to watch them get tons of attention and hype, only to fail as usual.

[ralaw]

I hate Jerrah with a passion but I don't think him as the GM is the problem at THIS particular moment in time. The Cowboys roster is busting with talent and the team has hit some real home runs in the draft and Jerrah will always write a check for a proven FA in the teams areas of need.

The problem is that Jerrah will not allow a strong willed coach to compete with him for who the players perceive has control of the team. His ego drives him to hire coaches that don't intimidate him and try to take control away from the owners box.

I don't think Jerrah's desire to build the team is a huge problem, because the roster does have talent; however, it is no secret that the Dallas has had its most success when Jerrah brought in a head coach who actually knew what they were doing (ie, see Jimmie Johnson and Parcells). Parcells inherited an absolute horrible team and built the foundation for what many thought was going to be a very successful team. ...some mediocre coaches later the Cowboys are what they've become.

Dallas is a team that underachieves and they have been for many years. They need to bring in a GM and coach that will hold the team accountable. Jason Garrett is a good young coach, but IMO he doesn't have the experience, respect or leadership to get this team to play up to its talent.

[Rayman]

People seriously oversell the talent on this football team.

Oh sure, you've got lots of talent at the skill positions, one of the best QBs in the league, a solid young ILB and arguably the best pass rusher in football, but if you look deeper, the offensive line is shit, the defense has no other players who can consistently bring pressure, a secondary that can't cover worth a lick, and zero depth at many of those positions.

The dropoff in talent from the best players on the roster to everyone else is staggering. From 2006-2010, they drafted like complete and utter shit. Look how many of those picks are still on the roster. These are the only main contributors of those draft classes this past season, and the bolded guys are likely gone:

2006: Jason Hatcher
2007: Anthony Spencer, Doug Free, Alan Ball
2008: Felix Jones, Jenkins, Martellus Bennett, Orlando Scandrick
2009: Stephen McGee, Victor Butler, John Phillips
2010: Dez Bryant, Sean Lee, Sean Lissemore

That's no way to build a team - this group is horrid in the trenches on both sides of the ball. That's on the "general manager". Now, contrary to popular belief, Jerry values input from any head coach he's ever had. The problem is most of those head coaches have been complete and utter retards, especially in regards to personell.

Parcells laid the foundation prior to his leaving (and he was never "forced out", by the way), and Wade Phillips was able to ride that foundation to initial success, but it fell apart soon after.

On the bright side, since Garrett's promotion, I can see a shift in philosophy and a lot of turnover at these roster spots thus far, but it's not enough. The team still needs to fix its' interior OL, the entire secondary, and has to find at least one other guy who can bring some sort of rush against the QB. This may take more than a year to correct. (I mean, you can always go the route some other teams have gone, and instead of going all out to fix your weaknesses, just amplify your strengths, which would mean going all-out to put the offense on a Saints/Packers level, which isn't that far-fetched. Not my preference, though.) The point is, they don't have that "time". Romo is gonna be 32 next year. Ware and Witten will be 30. Their prime years have essentially been wasted. And though Jerry does usually follow what his coaches want to do, there are times his ego comes in and fucks everything up. It's bound to happen. The 1995 and 2009 drafts will always leave a bitter taste in my mouth.

The last time we needed a QB, it took 7 years to find one, and even then, we merely lucked into him. If this team can't win now, which seems very unlikely, it's going to be another long process.

And like Al Davis, as long as Jerry Jones draws breath, it looks more and more hopeless.

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

I dont really disagree...but Wade goes and has a super defense somewhere else , and most teams would kill to have the weapons we have on offense.

Players are seriously under performing , thats on the HC. Believe me Id be thrilled if he brought in a good GM but its not happening.

[Senser81]

Parcells laid the foundation prior to his leaving (and he was never "forced out", by the way), and Wade Phillips was able to ride that foundation to initial success, but it fell apart soon after.

The effect of Parcells, as usual, is vastly overrated. Parcells' tenure in Dallas was like Bobby Knight's last years at Indiana...it was mediocre AT BEST. Parcells has an eye for defensive talent and acquired a few good players, but it was Phillips who got the most out of that talent. I don't see it as Phillips riding Parcells' coattails...Phillips could outcoach Parcells any day of the week.

I think it was a mistake to get rid of Phillips, but oh well. I didn't really mind Garrett's hire, either. The problem is that Dallas went with Rob Ryan as their defensive coordinator, which is like the Bears going with Mike Martz as their offensive coordinator. You have a hard-headed, inflexible retard who tries to run a scheme that doesn't fit his personnel.

I don't disagree that Jones has been a bad influence on player acquisition, but I think the Cowboys have enough talent to win...which the sort of still do. I think if they had better coaching, they would have been a playoff team.

[ram29jackson]

My favorite quote through all of this that Jones believes that the blame for failures should always fall to him. That is why he won't give up his role as GM. Are you kidding me? If that is his rationale, he's pretty damn close to Al Davis territory.

he may be an egomaniac, but dont compare him to Al D.

Jerry wants to help promote the league, not bury it by suing it to death.

that said, the Redskins owner may be learning quicker/ it appears he is trying to take his hands off stuff over time..

[Rayman]

I dont really disagree...but Wade goes and has a super defense somewhere else , and most teams would kill to have the weapons we have on offense.

Like Norv on offense, Wade is a defensive guru. You can't take that from him. But he cares too much about being the players' friend to have long term success as the man in charge. You don't need to be Tom Coughlin circa 2004, but it's proven time and time again that the coaches who have the most success are the ones who make it clear it's their way or the highway.

(Obviously not every "disciplinarian" is going to have that kind of success unless he actually knows what the hell he's doing, and the constant "fire and brimstone" act wears thin relatively quickly too...but you get the idea)

Players are seriously under performing, that's on the HC. Believe me Id be thrilled if he brought in a good GM but its not happening.

Which players would you specifically say are underperforming? Would it be off base to say that these "underperformers" are just not that good?

The effect of Parcells, as usual, is vastly overrated. Parcells' tenure in Dallas was like Bobby Knight's last years at Indiana...it was mediocre AT BEST. Parcells has an eye for defensive talent and acquired a few good players, but it was Phillips who got the most out of that talent. I don't see it as Phillips riding Parcells' coattails...Phillips could outcoach Parcells any day of the week.

I agree. When I say Parcells laid the foundation, I'm talking more about the mentality of the players and coaches that were brought in during that time, as well as the philosophy of how the team was being built. The talent Parcells brought in wasn't necessarily overwhelming (Sean Payton practically had to beg him to bring Romo on as an UDFA, Jerry and the scouts overruled him in taking DeMarcus Ware in 05, they drafted Witten in shock in the 3rd round after passing on him in the 2nd for Al freakin' Johnson, among many others).

As far as scheme, yeah, I won't argue with you there - Parcells would probably still believe in his "planet theory" if he were coaching today.

I think it was a mistake to get rid of Phillips, but oh well. I didn't really mind Garrett's hire, either. The problem is that Dallas went with Rob Ryan as their defensive coordinator, which is like the Bears going with Mike Martz as their offensive coordinator. You have a hard-headed, inflexible retard who tries to run a scheme that doesn't fit his personnel.

You know what's crazy? As bad as the defense looked toward the end of the year, they actually improved over the 2010 version. I think you're right about Rob Ryan forcing his scheme on players that didn't fit, and I'm somewhat hopeful an offseason of study and acquiring new pieces that DO fit can make a little bit better of a difference. But his scheme, like Rex's, relies on having great corners. Not exactly a lot they can do about that part.

I don't disagree that Jones has been a bad influence on player acquisition, but I think the Cowboys have enough talent to win...which the sort of still do. I think if they had better coaching, they would have been a playoff team.

The top-tier talent of the roster is good enough to mask a lot of the deficiencies. Hell, they're good enough to win in the postseason based on those guys alone. The problem is the bottom of the roster and the role players in between are not up to snuff. And anytime one of those role players IS good enough, he gets overblown by everyone and thinks he's a fucking star (see; Marion Barber, Patrick Crayton, Gerald Sensabaugh, and I'm afraid to say that Laurent Robinson could be this year's iteration).

Lastly, I think Garrett is learning on the job (doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that, I know) and eventually will end up being pretty successful as a head coach. I'm just not sure it will be with this particular group.