At the end of the day, there is to many fucking polls.
Could LSU lose to Alabama in the National Championship and still be #1?
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I've said that a million times. They are two separate things. So you need to stop pretending like they are the same thing.
The AP Poll is only as meaningful as people make it to be. The NCAA cannot dictate what the AP does. Likewise, the AP cannot tell the NCAA they cannot have a playoff.
What the AP does is irrelevant. Neither you nor I have control over it. I am not interested in discussing how the AP conducts their polls.
You are saying that if we had a playoff, people wouldnt care about the AP. But to that i say, the AP should be irrelevant right now, but its not.
Then you're gonna say its not irrelevant because we dont have a playoff. To that i say we have a championship game, which should be treated the same.Comment
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People want a playoff because they want more teams to get a chance at winning the championship.
If there was a 4 team playoff, people might still want more teams...so does that mean people wouldnt care who wins a 4 team playoff??Comment
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Earlier in this thread someone was making the exact point that the championship game should be treated like a playoff game.
Many people feel this way.
Treating the championship game like a random bowl game is stupid.
cham·pi·on·ship (chmp-n-shp)
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Its actually the other way around. You keep saying that if we had a playoff, the AP poll would be irrelevant, tieing the 2 together. I say they are separate and been asking why that would be the case, and you bring CBB as an example. Then i remind you that CBB has never crowned a champion with a poll.
Senser: If college football uses a tournament system like college basketball, then the end-of-the-year poll would be unnecessary like in college basketball.
ZB: That makes no sense, because CBB doesn't use a poll to crown their champion, whereas CFB does!
Senser: But we are talking about changing the current CFB system to be more in line with the current CBB system.
ZB: We are? I seemingly have been blathering for so long, I forgot what we were talking about in the first place. I guess you've been right all along. My bad.
Senser: No problem, friend.
ZB: Thanks.Comment
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No, it shouldn't.
A situation where only two teams are hand picked to play for a game should not be treated the same as a playoff.
You've gone off the rails now Ozzy.
I'm pretty sure that was you................................Comment
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Who cares if the voters think they are number 1? The BCS game is what matters the most. Being ranked number 1 just gets you into that game. The winner of the Championship match is the Champion. Period.
It's like saying that it doesn't matter that the Patriots lost in the superbowl against the Giants because they were still number 1 in voting. BFD. Superbowl is all that matters. The shit that happened prior gets you in. It's all whiped clean and gone once that whistle is blown and the opening kickoff is flying down the field.
EDIT: Just read that Saban made that same point. Good for him. Here's an alternate example: Boxing. If the Pac-man beats you 3 times along with 40 other dudes, then you come up and knock him out on your 4th try... Guess what? The belt is yours.Comment
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Of course they are tied together! But they are irrelevant to the discussion, because one doesn't determine the action of the other. The NCAA cannot make the AP NOT release a poll, and the AP cannot tell the NCAA they CAN'T have a playoff. You seem to be against the NCAA having a playoff because the AP can merely release a poll after the playoff, which in your opinion would make the playoff meaningless. I'm saying that point of view is wrong, because the only meaning the AP Poll receives is derived from the people viewing it.
Im not even sure if you agree with FT. If you dont, then we have no disagreement.Comment
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