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  • Chrispy
    Needs a hobby
    • Dec 2008
    • 11403

    Kiper: New QB rankings minus Landry Jones

    Another week, another talented quarterback with a first-round grade in the 2012 NFL draft is out of the mix. Landry Jones made it official Thursday afternoon that he'll be returning to Oklahoma for another season, and the ramifications are significant. Jones' announcement also might shift the decision-making process for an SEC quarterback.

    Before the update, let me say I applaud the decision of Jones. He has a lot of ability, but struggled in the second half of the season, and made it clear to evaluators that there are things he can work on and skills he can refine with more experience. I fully expect that at this point next year, we'll again be talking about him as a potential high first-round pick, and hopefully with some positive momentum on his side.

    That said, let's take a look at how the quarterback class shapes up. As a caveat, I'm not going to rank Arkansas junior Tyler Wilson in the rankings, but will indicate where I think he would fit if he does decide to enter the draft.

    1. Andrew Luck
    I'll spare you another round of superlatives. You saw again in his final college game what makes Luck so special. Against a talented team that had a month to prepare, and with a lack of major weapons in the passing game, Luck carved up Oklahoma State and completed nearly 90 percent of his passes. He has it all -- smarts, arm strength, poise, pocket awareness, an ability to throw on the move to either side, and a preternatural sense of how to move defenders with his eyes. He can call the plays, and check down when the play isn't there. He's the best quarterback prospect since John Elway. Sorry, I didn't exactly spare you.
    Grade: High 1st

    2. Robert Griffin III
    No quarterback is riding a better wave of momentum, and I fully expect that a team could be willing to move up to as high as No. 2 in the draft to get him. Great arm strength, exceptional athleticism, improved and now elite accuracy on the deep ball, and a ton of experience make Griffin a very appealing prospect. I think he'll particularly shine when teams get to talk to this young man, because he's got the intangibles, the personality and is a proven leader.
    Grade: High 1st

    3. Nick Foles
    He may have lost a little shine this season because of the way the Wildcats performed as a team, but Foles is a really solid developmental prospect. He's a big kid, at 6-foot-5 and 240 pounds, is accurate, moves and throws well to both his right and his left, and has solid mechanics. Questions for Foles start with decision-making, but I think he may have tried to force his throws too often as the team struggled, and the numbers tell some of that story. But you can draft Foles in the late first or early second round and develop him.
    Grade: Late 1st to mid-2nd

    4. Ryan Tannehill
    He's a really intelligent player, with a strong arm. He displays a good grasp of the offense and has come a long way in a short time -- you're talking about a former wide receiver -- and was able to put up good numbers. Tannehill is a guy with more upside than polish, and part of that stems from the fact that I have him at just 19 starts after the bowl game. He had a really rough game against Texas, which looked worse when Griffin went out and lit up the Longhorns soon after, but all in all, I still saw this as a solid growth season. Again, he's not a player a competitive NFL team wants starting games in 2012, but there are skills to work with.
    Grade: Early to late 2nd

    5. Brandon Weeden

    Hey, you subtract one key number, and Weeden jumps up this list. He has a big-time arm, is accurate, plays with poise and can beat you over the top. The bottom line is if you think this is a guy you want to draft and develop for a year, he might not make his first NFL start until he's 30 years old. Let's face it, that's a number nobody will overlook. It says a lot for Weeden's ability that he's in the position to be drafted at all.
    Grade: Late 2nd to middle rounds

    The question mark
    Tyler Wilson, were he to enter the draft, would be at No. 3 on this list for me. This is a kid who just shows great toughness and the ability to be accurate while extending plays and taking hits. He worked behind a subpar offensive line this season, but is willing to look down the barrel and make throws. He slides well to his left or right, has above-average accuracy, and has a good sense of how to calibrate his throws, not overcooking underneath throws, and putting the necessary pace on the ball when he wants to push it down the field. Let's be clear that there's no guarantee at all that Wilson would land in Round 1 were he to stay in the draft. But he does have that kind of potential.

    Other quarterbacks you'll see in the mix are Kirk Cousins, Ryan Lindley and BJ Coleman. And there'll be many evaluations and possible shifts to come.

    Mel Kiper has been the premier name in NFL draft prospect evaluations for more than three decades. He started putting out his annual draft guides in 1978 and started contributing to ESPN as an analyst in 1984. For more from Mel, check out his annual draft publications or his home page. He can also be found on Twitter here.
  • Golden Taters
    RIP West
    • Jul 2009
    • 6640

    #2
    I hope Seattle drafts Nick Foles.

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    • G-men
      Posts too much
      • Nov 2011
      • 7579

      #3
      I think Tyler Wilson should take advantage of Barkley and Jones staying and leave early. This gives him a much better chance to be a first round pick than had those two come out. I really like Wilson, I would much rather take him over Jones right now.

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      • JBregz
        Follow me! @JBregzz
        • Nov 2008
        • 3837

        #4
        How would you guys match-up this years QB draft class compared to the past 5 or so?

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        • JeremyHight
          I wish I was Scrubs
          • Feb 2009
          • 4063

          #5
          Two solid QB prospects and a bunch of shit after that, honestly. Barkley and Jones would have both been number 3 and 4, instead, we have Foles and Tannehill as potential second round picks when they were 3rd-4th rounders if some juniors had come out.

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          • TheImmortalGoud
            No longer a noob
            • Jan 2011
            • 1790

            #6
            Originally posted by JeremyHight
            Two solid QB prospects and a bunch of shit after that, honestly. Barkley and Jones would have both been number 3 and 4, instead, we have Foles and Tannehill as potential second round picks when they were 3rd-4th rounders if some juniors had come out.
            Foles and Tannehill were going to be second rounders regardless. Some people think that Tannehill was gonna be a first rounder even if Barkley and Jones had come out.

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            • Mogriffjr
              aka Reece
              • Apr 2009
              • 2759

              #7
              Originally posted by Josh
              How would you guys match-up this years QB draft class compared to the past 5 or so?
              It seemed to lose a bit of luster once Jones and Barkley decided to stay in college for another season...it seems like a nice batch of QB's...definitely better than last year.
              Originally posted by Nick Mangold
              Wes Welker is a great player. He's really taken advantage of watching film. If we don't keep a Spy on him, he could really open the Gate.

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              • Rudi
                #CyCueto
                • Nov 2008
                • 9905

                #8
                Someone is going to reach on Foles for sure, and be incredibly disappointed [ex. Christian Ponder/Blaine Gabbert]

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                • Archer
                  Go the fuck outside
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 15303

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Rudi
                  Someone is going to reach on Foles for sure, and be incredibly disappointed [ex. Christian Ponder/Blaine Gabbert]
                  I disagree. He was stuck with an awful team/coach for basically his entire career.

                  His ability/consistency match up with almost anybody in the nation.

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                  • ralaw
                    Posts too much
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 6663

                    #10
                    I'm looking at the draft order and trying to figure out which teams would even take a QB in the first. Kiper seems to have a lot of guys projected to the first round with not enough teams who have a need. Some of these teams have a need at QB, but wouldn't take one in the 1st round. The only two that should go in the first are Luck and RG3. BTW, with Barkley and now Jones backing out the Redskins are screwed.

                    1. Indianapolis Colts - Yes
                    2. St. Louis Rams - No
                    3. Minnesota Vikings - No
                    4. Cleveland Browns - Yes
                    5. Tampa Bay Bucs - No
                    6. Washington Redskins - Yes
                    7. Jacksonville Jaguars - No
                    8. Carolina Panthers - No
                    9. Miami Dolphins - Yes
                    10. Buffalo Bills - No
                    11. Kansas City Chiefs - No?
                    12. Seattle Seahawks - Yes?
                    13. Arizona Cardinals - No?
                    14. Dallas Cowboys - No
                    15. Philadelphia Eagles - No
                    16. New York Jets - No
                    17. Oakland Raiders - Yes
                    18. San Diego Chargers - No
                    19. Chicago Bears - Yes? (backup)
                    20. Tennessee Titans - No
                    21. Denver Broncos - Yes
                    22. Cincinnati Bengals - No
                    23. Cleveland Browns - No
                    24. Detroit Lions - No
                    25. New York Giants - No
                    26. Houston Texans - No
                    27. Pittsburgh Steelers - No
                    28. San Francisco 49ers - No
                    29. Baltimore Ravens - No
                    30. New England Patriots - No
                    31. New England Patriots - No
                    32. Green Bay Packers - No

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                    • Houston
                      Back home
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 21231

                      #11
                      Broncos don't need a QB

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                      • Tengo Juego
                        Posts a lot
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 4289

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ralaw
                        19. Chicago Bears - Yes? (backup)
                        LOL The Bears drafting a backup QB in the first round.

                        Originally posted by ralaw
                        32. Green Bay Packers

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                        • Senser81
                          VSN Poster of the Year
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 12804

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Tengo Juego
                          LOL The Bears drafting a backup QB in the first round.



                          But also LOL at the Bears drafting an injured offensive lineman in the first round.

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                          • FirstTimer
                            Freeman Error

                            • Feb 2009
                            • 18729

                            #14
                            No Matt Mulvey?

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                            • Rudi
                              #CyCueto
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 9905

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ralaw
                              17. Oakland Raiders - Yes
                              Bengals got that pick when we dealt Oakland their franchise savior in Carson Palmer.

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