Total bullshit: NCAA touchbacks moved to 25, kickoffs to 35

[ZoneBlitz]

If you are the kicking team, why in the hell would you willingly want to give up five more yards of field position? Now that your coverage team has five less yards to cover to get to the ball carrier, it would seem just a tad bit wiser to give a kick some more hangtime and try to land the ball inside the 20 and stuff the return

**Stolen from an ND blog.

Valid point, but im gonna guess thats rarely going to happen.

I think teams would rather sacrifice 5 yards, than risk allowing a good return.

Its obvious that the NCAA's intentions was to create more touchbacks, so im sure they researched what teams do & what they would do, before creating these new rules.

Touchbacks will increase.

[FirstTimer]

but im gonna guess thats rarely going to happen

Why?

if bloggers can figure it out you think football coaches won't?

risk allowing a good return.

The point is the risk isn't there really. You just shortened the distance the kicking team has to run and allow them to put up high hangtime kicks.....the risk is negated.

[NAHSTE]

Valid point, but im gonna guess thats rarely going to happen.

I think teams would rather sacrifice 5 yards, than risk allowing a good return.

Its obvious that the NCAA's intentions was to create more touchbacks, so im sure they researched what teams do & what they would do, before creating these new rules.

Touchbacks will increase.

Teams already "risk allowing a good return" by kicking the ball toward the front pylon on either side of the field, aiming inside the 5 but short of the goal line. The hope is to tackle the return man at the 15 or 16 and net a few extra yards. And that was before a touchback became less valuable.

[FirstTimer]

Teams already "risk allowing a good return" by kicking the ball toward the front pylon on either side of the field, aiming inside the 5 but short of the goal line. The hope is to tackle the return man at the 15 or 16 and net a few extra yards. And that was before a touchback became less valuable.

And before you gave the kickoff team a 5 yard headstart on getting down there.

[Senser81]

Nice troll tactics after your comparison was proven to be incredibly stupid.

When the returner catches the ball in the endzone, it takes zero skill for him to kneel it down.

A coach can tell his player that when he catches the ball in the endzone, he should kneel it down more often.

Touchbacks will increase, just like they did in the NFL.

Not only is it like we are talking about two different things (kickoff return strategy vs. "touchbacks"), its like I am talking on a level with other coaches whereas you are talking on a level with other 10 year-olds who play Madden and can't understand why WRs drop passes after being hit by a DB.

Stop being a fucking moron. A coach telling a player he should "kneel it down more often"???? REALLY??!!! What does that even mean? Does he kneel it down, stand up, and then kneel down a second time? Or does he somehow, through telekinetics, use his mind force to make the kickoff go into the endzone?

Your posting has somehow gotten even worse from when you first joined. I am impressed/aghast.

[ZoneBlitz]

Not only is it like we are talking about two different things (kickoff return strategy vs. "touchbacks"), its like I am talking on a level with other coaches whereas you are talking on a level with other 10 year-olds who play Madden and can't understand why WRs drop passes after being hit by a DB.

Stop being a fucking moron. A coach telling a player he should "kneel it down more often"???? REALLY??!!! What does that even mean? Does he kneel it down, stand up, and then kneel down a second time? Or does he somehow, through telekinetics, use his mind force to make the kickoff go into the endzone?

Your posting has somehow gotten even worse from when you first joined. I am impressed/aghast.

You can tell the forums are real slow when you try this hard to create arguments.

[Senser81]

You can tell the forums are real slow when you try this hard to create arguments.

I don't think its an "argument" per se, because we still aren't talking about the same thing. You initially said that teams would be more apt to take touchbacks because they'll be getting an extra 5 yards on their touchback...I said that those 5 yards are negligible to kick return strategy; a team with Devin Hester returning kicks isn't going to change their strategy and tell him to down the ball every time...your rebuttal is to say there will be more touchbacks this season....wha--???

[ZoneBlitz]

I don't think its an "argument" per se, because we still aren't talking about the same thing. You initially said that teams would be more apt to take touchbacks because they'll be getting an extra 5 yards on their touchback...I said that those 5 yards are negligible to kick return strategy; a team with Devin Hester returning kicks isn't going to change their strategy and tell him to down the ball every time...your rebuttal is to say there will be more touchbacks this season....wha--???

LOL @ Devin Hester, yeah lets use the greatest returner of all time as an example...not every team has a Devin Hester, especially in college football with 120 teams.

There will be more touchbacks because 1) kicks are closer to endzone, and 2) returners will be more likely to take the touchback.

Please continue making an ass out of yourself.

[Senser81]

LOL @ Devin Hester, yeah lets use the greatest returner of all time as an example...not every team has a Devin Hester, especially in college football with 120 teams.

There will be more touchbacks because 1) kicks are closer to endzone, and 2) returners will be more likely to take the touchback.

Please continue making an ass out of yourself.

Shh! Quiet, Lisa...grown-ups are talking now.

[ZoneBlitz]

Shh! Quiet, Lisa...grown-ups are talking now.

Ill be sure to bump this thread once touchback numbers are increased.

[Senser81]

Ill be sure to bump this thread once touchback numbers are increased.

Again, thats not my point. I'm talking about kickoff return strategy. Of course touchback numbers will increase...the kickers are kicking off closer to the end zone. Are you dense?

If college football decided to count TDs as 7 points each instead of 6, would you then conclude that coaches will be instructing their offenses to "score more touchdowns", and the proof of this new strategy would be to say "I'll bump this thread once scoring numbers are increased"?

I don't think I've ever seen a worse 24-hour run of posts in this forum by a single poster. Its like you've just set the single game record for most interceptions thrown. You are the Ty Detmer of this forum. Deal with it.

[ZoneBlitz]

Again, thats not my point. I'm talking about kickoff return strategy.

Yes i know. I think teams will take a knee in the endzone more. You think they wont. STFU and move on.

Of course touchback numbers will increase

Thats been my point all along, and ive argued that it will against others who said it wont. Welcome to a few days ago.

[Senser81]

Yes i know. I think teams will take a knee in the endzone more. You think they wont. STFU and move on.



Thats been my point all along, and ive argued that it will against others who said it wont. Welcome to a few days ago.

No, again, this is wrong. You said that teams would be more apt to take touchbacks because they would be getting an additional 5 yards on the touchback. I said that those 5 yards are negligible in regards to kickoff return strategy. I don't get how you still don't understand this relatively basic point.

And if your response to my point is that "touchback numbers will increase", then all I can say is we are talking football on two completely different levels. You're playing checkers, I'm playing chess. Let me know when you make the jump to the All-Madden level, son.

[ZoneBlitz]

No, again, this is wrong. You said that teams would be more apt to take touchbacks because they would be getting an additional 5 yards on the touchback. I said that those 5 yards are negligible in regards to kickoff return strategy. I don't get how you still don't understand this relatively basic point.

I understand your point but i disagree with it.

And if your response to my point is that "touchback numbers will increase", then all I can say is we are talking football on two completely different levels. You're playing checkers, I'm playing chess. Let me know when you make the jump to the All-Madden level, son.

That wasnt my response, that was just me fast-forwarding to my point, because i didnt feel like arguing for the hell of it.

[ZoneBlitz]

Of course touchback numbers will increase...the kickers are kicking off closer to the end zone. Are you dense?

There are plenty people in this thread who disagreed about touchbacks increasing...you should go after them since u & me actually have more common ground than you do with them.