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  • Warner2BruceTD
    2011 Poster Of The Year
    • Mar 2009
    • 26142

    Originally posted by Tailback U
    You're not getting it. The bounty is irrelevant. The deed is going to be done whether or not there is a bounty. Don't get so caught up in this "bounty" thing. It's for the media to make a big deal out of something and the general public to be appalled by.

    It shouldn't be done, coaches shouldn't be partaking in this, but it is going to happen whether or not there is a bounty so in the end it doesn't make a difference on the bottom line.

    See the forest through the trees, W2B.
    This idea that NFL players are actively seeking to injure one another is completely off base, but clearly you will never be swayed off of that.

    The general public should be appalled by bounties. Because it's appalling behavior to pay people to injure others. It taking place in a football field doesn't make it any less appalling.

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    • KNUBB
      WHITE RONDO
      • Jun 2009
      • 7973

      I do enjoy Harrison getting a pass though. I applaud the hypocrisy.


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      • EmpireWF
        Giants in the Super Bowl
        • Mar 2009
        • 24082

        Originally posted by KNUBB
        So what we're doing and tell me if I'm wrong is assuming this is the only system in the league and everyone isn't doing it right?

        The naivety is hilarious.
        What naivety? If there are other teams paying guys to injure opponents, it'll get out and they will be punished, too.

        This isn't just playing defense. It's going onto the field with the intent to injure opponents AND rewarding them with financial bonuses. This is not a normal thing practiced by NFL teams.

        As far as we know, this is a system promoted by Greg Williams.


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        • EmpireWF
          Giants in the Super Bowl
          • Mar 2009
          • 24082

          Originally posted by KNUBB
          I do enjoy Harrison getting a pass though. I applaud the hypocrisy.
          Did he get paid a bonus by the Steelers staff for purposefully knocking McCoy out of the game?


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          • KNUBB
            WHITE RONDO
            • Jun 2009
            • 7973

            What is happening is ignoring is that the system was also a performance based incentive. So ANY big hit, or good play got rewarded. That is honestly where the naivety is coming in. That and assuming this isn't happening elsewhere. That's like thinking your mom and dad have only had sex to have you and whatever siblings you have.


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            • Warner2BruceTD
              2011 Poster Of The Year
              • Mar 2009
              • 26142

              Originally posted by KNUBB
              So what we're doing and tell me if I'm wrong is assuming this is the only system in the league and everyone isn't doing it right?

              The naivety is hilarious.
              But mom, all the kids were doing it!!

              Originally posted by KNUBB
              Show me some cheap shots and blatant hits other than the playoffs of 09(which were all legal hits)

              Ready

              Set

              Go!!
              Completely irrelevant and missing the point.


              Anyway, you're just being a homer, I can give you a pass. Tailback is just a pretty sick dude.

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              • KNUBB
                WHITE RONDO
                • Jun 2009
                • 7973

                Also ignoring the fact that the actual fund was made up of donations coming out of the PLAYERS pockets.


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                • KNUBB
                  WHITE RONDO
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 7973

                  My request is not irrelevant. Since the Saints are so dirty there should be more examples. Give them to me.


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                  • EmpireWF
                    Giants in the Super Bowl
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 24082

                    It doesn't matter where the money came from or that they were "incentive" bonuses. The problem comes from the fact that players were told to get $$$ bonuses, they had to injure and knock guys out of games.

                    That's the line they crossed.


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                    • Tailback U
                      No substitute 4 strength.
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 10282

                      Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                      This idea that NFL players are actively seeking to injure one another is completely off base, but clearly you will never be swayed off of that.

                      The general public should be appalled by bounties. Because it's appalling behavior to pay people to injure others. It taking place in a football field doesn't make it any less appalling.
                      You need to stop misconstruing my words by replacing "hurt" with "injure." There is a difference.

                      I've said several times, players are out to hurt one another, not injure. Yet you keep changing my words.

                      This is funny coming from a MMA fan, where there are cash prizes for "knockout of the night."

                      I am appalled by any human who awards another man for knocking another man unconscious and by anyone who follows such a barbaric sport.

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                      • Warner2BruceTD
                        2011 Poster Of The Year
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 26142

                        Originally posted by EmpireWF
                        Did he get paid a bonus by the Steelers staff for purposefully knocking McCoy out of the game?
                        I guess his awful point is that because other teams might be doing this, it's ok for the Saints to do it.

                        Sounds a lot like some of the Pats fans during spygate.

                        Other teams might be doing it, but it's still wrong, and you got caught. Don't attempt to sugarcoat, it is what it is.

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                        • Warner2BruceTD
                          2011 Poster Of The Year
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 26142

                          Originally posted by Tailback U
                          You need to stop misconstruing my words by replacing "hurt" with "injure." There is a difference.

                          I've said several times, players are out to hurt one another, not injure. Yet you keep changing my words.

                          This is funny coming from a MMA fan, where there are cash prizes for "knockout of the night."

                          I am appalled by any human who awards another man for knocking another man unconscious and by anyone who follows such a barbaric sport.
                          The goal of a prize fight is to defeat the other man.

                          The goal of football is to outscore the opponent. You don't "score" in football by injuring people.

                          You really are the dirt worst.

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                          • Bear Pand
                            RIP Indy Colts
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 5945

                            Originally posted by KNUBB
                            My request is not irrelevant. Since the Saints are so dirty there should be more examples. Give them to me.
                            Just wait, the NFL will.

                            There's no need for any of us to go dig up youtube vids. You guys about to get exposed.

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                            • KNUBB
                              WHITE RONDO
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 7973

                              That is duck talk for you can't think of any. QUIT DUCKING.


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                              • Tailback U
                                No substitute 4 strength.
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 10282

                                Originally posted by EmpireWF
                                Playing in the course of the game is different than coaches rewarding players for knocking guys out of games and injuring them.

                                No one has accused the Steelers of paying guys to hurt opponents, so I don't see what dragging them into this has to do with anything.
                                Really? I don't understand this logic.

                                So if I go knock a guy out in my next game because I wanted to it's perfectly ok, but if you find out my coach gave me $100 to do it it's not ok?

                                Chances are I was going to go out and try to knock him out anyway, but now that I'm being paid to do it makes it wrong?

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