Saints Defense maintained a Bounty Program

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  • Bigpapa42
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 3185

    #16
    I'm thinking bowl ban and dock some scholarships for lack of institutional control?

    ...oh wait....

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    • EmpireWF
      Giants in the Super Bowl
      • Mar 2009
      • 24082

      #17
      Clayton on Twitter was talking about how if they take picks away, it will be worse than spygate because this lasted for 3 years. Plus, b/c NE has their 1st round pick this year, the Saints may be forced to give up a future first rounder plus whatever this year.

      All conjecture at this point tho.


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      • Warner2BruceTD
        2011 Poster Of The Year
        • Mar 2009
        • 26142

        #18
        Originally posted by SHOGUN
        Well that certainly puts that Kurt Warner hit from the 2010 playoffs in perspective....

        Originally posted by MrBill
        Is anybody shocked by this? The hits on Warner and Favre in 2010 were obviously borderline if not blatantly illegal at times during the games. There was lots of chatter about a bounty program in place during the playoffs that year. Lazy investigation to take 2 years to prove what we already knew.
        Yup.

        The "legal" hit on Warner was dirty and something we've talked about here, and they've taken tons of cheap shots over the years on guys, from Favre in the NFCC game, to Steve Smith last year.

        I've never like Greg Williams and did not want the Rams to hire that cretin to begin with, now we have to deal with this mess. He'll be suspended, along with Payton, and the Saints will lose picks and probably be fined an unreal amount.

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        • Epidemik
          Commitment to Excellence
          • Jul 2009
          • 10276

          #19
          According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, the NFL has determined that MLB Jonathan Vilma was one of the primary culprits in the Saints' "pay for performance" bounty program that will result in NFL discipline.
          "In the week of the NFC Championship Game," Schefter said on NFL Live Friday, "Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma put $10,000 in cash on a table and said 'this goes to the guy that knocks out Brett Favre.'" Those weren't Vilma's exact words, but they were similar, according to Schefter, and he's sure to be atop the league's target list for impending discipline. It's worth nothing that Vilma is due $5.4 million in 2012 and has been discussed as a possible salary cap casualty. We wouldn't expect him back with the Saints. Mar 2 - 4:19 PM
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          • Epidemik
            Commitment to Excellence
            • Jul 2009
            • 10276

            #20
            speculation

            BobGlauber: Saints bounty system: players paid $1,500 for "knockout," $1,000 for a “cart-off,” per NFL investigation. Payments increased in playoffs.

             

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            • Bigpapa42
              Junior Member
              • Feb 2009
              • 3185

              #21
              Oh man, Vilma is gonna get vilmafied over this situation if that's accurate to any extent.

              Wonder who blew the whistle...

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              • TuxedoYoda
                Noob
                • Feb 2012
                • 37

                #22
                Gregg Williams, Sean Payton & Mickey Loomis need to be out of football.

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                • Warner2BruceTD
                  2011 Poster Of The Year
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 26142

                  #23
                  There is talk of potential salary cap violations being persued if the league can confirm payments.

                  Shit is going to hit the fan, this is not good for the Saints, and while this is going on, Mr. Team Leader is bending them over without lube and wants to be the highest paid player in the sport.

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                  • Rayman
                    Spic 'n Spanish
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 4626

                    #24
                    They got a Super Bowl out of it. Well worth it. I wish a certain team would grow a pair and play half as hard defensively, or at least target certain players.


                    You know, like a certain ape that lines up in the Giants' backfield.



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                    • ThomasTomasz
                      • Nov 2024

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                      There is talk of potential salary cap violations being persued if the league can confirm payments.

                      Shit is going to hit the fan, this is not good for the Saints, and while this is going on, Mr. Team Leader is bending them over without lube and wants to be the highest paid player in the sport.
                      Take away their franchise tag as well......that would certainly be interesting for the Brees negotiations.

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                      • Tailback U
                        No substitute 4 strength.
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 10282

                        #26
                        Can somebody tell me where they ranked in roughing the passer/unsportsmanlike conduct/unnecessary roughness penalties?

                        If they weren't near tops in the league then I really don't have a problem with this at all. I'd they were, then I do.

                        People are constantly bitching about how the nfl has
                        Gone soft and passing is too easy and the fines and flags for big hits are ruining the sport, now people are bitching about how this is too rough or malicious? It's contradictory.

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                        • NWSaint
                          The Minister of Defense
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 1953

                          #27
                          Lord........... as if the Brees situation wasn't enough of an off-season
                          distraction.. now this

                          .. well we'll see what happens.. probably won't be good, but when your backed
                          into a corner you either roll over and die or come out fighting.. gotta love the
                          off-season.

                          Originally posted by Tailback U
                          People are constantly bitching about how the nfl has gone soft and passing is too easy and
                          the fines and flags for big hits are ruining the sport, now people are bitching about how this
                          is too rough or malicious? It's contradictory.
                          ^^^^THIS! (well put)




                          NW.
                          "Hit Hard.. Hit Fast.. Lest They Hit First"


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                          • Tailback U
                            No substitute 4 strength.
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 10282

                            #28
                            I just don't get it. You can't complain about the fines for illegal hits and then complain about the players being paid for making big legal hits.

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                            • Warner2BruceTD
                              2011 Poster Of The Year
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 26142

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Tailback U
                              I just don't get it. You can't complain about the fines for illegal hits and then complain about the players being paid for making big legal hits.
                              who is doing this?

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                              • bucky
                                #50? WTF?
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 5408

                                #30
                                Not sure why anybody is so worked up over this bounty stuff. Like a couple others have said, if the hits are legal, then who cares.

                                Illegal hits should be taken care of by the officials and the league.

                                If they are good, hard, LEGAL hits, what's the big deal?

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