Sean Payton Suspended 1 Year, Saints Lose Pair of 2nd Round Picks

[EmpireWF]

Loomis wont miss time until after the final preseason game. He'll handle the draft and rest of free agency.

[JBregz]

[Juggernaut]

Loomis wont miss time until after the final preseason game. He'll handle the draft and rest of free agency.

That's good to hear, and only fair imo.

[shag773]

Read up on this some, here are some thoughts:

The Saints are morons for leaving a paper trail while trying to cover this up.

If anyone thinks the NFL handed this out to protect the sanctity of the game and the personal safety of it's players, get a clue. With the impending court cases vs the NFL from it's former players (another joke, but a different topic) and the ongoing public perception that football is too violent, the NFL did this to protect it's own interest. They don't give two fucks about these players, their as slimey as some of you would have us believe these coaches are..

I personally think bounties are stupid. But I think you guys are putting too much weight on what kind of impact it had on the games or their opponents. I could be wrong, but show me where this "bounty program" set off a so many personal fouls, illegal hits, and ambulance rides.

Were these bounties worth more than the fines that could come with these hits? I know some of these fines were in the 6 figures, and some of these bounties were worth a couple hundred to a couple thousand if I'm reading correctly. If these bounties are in the 6 figure realm, than they have bigger problems than the NFL sanctions.

It would make sense to me that these guys collect these bounties from a hit that would be within the NFL rules. If thats the case, than I don't see the moral high ground here.

[EmpireWF]

If anyone thinks the NFL handed this out to protect the sanctity of the game and the personal safety of it's players, get a clue. With the impending court cases vs the NFL from it's former players (another joke, but a different topic) and the ongoing public perception that football is too violent, the NFL did this to protect it's own interest. They don't give two fucks about these players, their as slimey as some of you would have us believe these coaches are..

Yes and don't underestimate the fact that these bounties violated the CBA. The league is making each team sign waivers saying that they do not have any kind of bounty system in place (whether for violent hits or just for making plays).

[Senser81]

Read up on this some, here are some thoughts:

The Saints are morons for leaving a paper trail while trying to cover this up.

If anyone thinks the NFL handed this out to protect the sanctity of the game and the personal safety of it's players, get a clue. With the impending court cases vs the NFL from it's former players (another joke, but a different topic) and the ongoing public perception that football is too violent, the NFL did this to protect it's own interest. They don't give two fucks about these players, their as slimey as some of you would have us believe these coaches are..

I personally think bounties are stupid. But I think you guys are putting too much weight on what kind of impact it had on the games or their opponents. I could be wrong, but show me where this "bounty program" set off a so many personal fouls, illegal hits, and ambulance rides.

Were these bounties worth more than the fines that could come with these hits? I know some of these fines were in the 6 figures, and some of these bounties were worth a couple hundred to a couple thousand if I'm reading correctly. If these bounties are in the 6 figure realm, than they have bigger problems than the NFL sanctions.

It would make sense to me that these guys collect these bounties from a hit that would be within the NFL rules. If thats the case, than I don't see the moral high ground here.

You asked about the impact of bounties. I personally cant say either way, but I always thought the Saints were a dirty team. Anthony Hargrove was the dirtiest player in the league, diving on piles and taking out knees. Jabari Greer was always looking for a kill shot.

So, in my estimation, it did have an impact on the field. You are always going to have dirty teams like Glanville's Oilers or Buddy's Eagles, so i dont get why people have such a difficult time accepting that bounties can impact the on field product.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Just because a hit is legal, does not mean it isn't dirty. How people still can not grasp this is beyond my understanding.

Goofball fans and goofball players like Greer (who was on the radio today) spouting off about 'show me the dirty hits' are missing the point. Every tackle the Saints have made for three years MUST come under question now. All. Of. Them. Once money is on the table, you have to assume that the players chased that cash and did things they normally would not have done to get it. To think otherwise, or to think this type of stuff would actively happen to the same extent without bounties, is incredibly naive.

[ZoneBlitz]

Just because a hit is legal, does not mean it isn't dirty. How people still can not grasp this is beyond my understanding.

And again i ask you (which i dont think you answered the 1st time)...why does it matter if a hit is dirty, if its perfectly legal & within the rules?

[EmpireWF]

Let's not get into this repetitive, drawn out talk again.

Instead, let's talk about how Sean Payton lied to the commissioner's office and his superiors, told his people to cover up the program and then gets caught.

[Warner2BruceTD]

And again i ask you (which i dont think you answered the 1st time)...why does it matter if a hit is dirty, if its perfectly legal & within the rules?

Is this a serious question?

[ZoneBlitz]

Is this a serious question?

Has anyone here ever made a sex video with another dude? If so, can you give me some technical tips on the filming, like camera angles, lighting, etc?

[Villain]

[Warner2BruceTD]

Yeah. Is this a serious answer?

Because normal, well adjusted people don't want to see dirty hits or cheap shots, even if they are legal. Normal, well adjusted people are also not comfortable with other people being injured due to dirty hits or cheap shots, even if the hits that caused the injuries technically are legal.

Do you have heads in your freezer?

[KNUBB]

You are all still faggots for bringing this argument back to life. Good day.

[EmpireWF]

Poor Spags, wanted to unwind and coach a defense...may be called on to jump into the fire again.