Big East Commish resigns...This can't be good for them in the BCS Playoff talks

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  • FirstTimer
    Freeman Error

    • Feb 2009
    • 18729

    Big East Commish resigns...This can't be good for them in the BCS Playoff talks

    Big East commissioner John Marinatto has resigned, leaving the league without a leader as the conference works to find its footing amid a radically shifting landscape.

    The conference announced the move in a statement released Monday morning.

    "Our recent expansion efforts have stabilized the conference for the long term, and we are likewise well positioned for our very important upcoming television negotiations," Marinatto said in the news release. "As a result, I felt this was the right time to step aside and to let someone else lead us through the next chapter of our evolution."



    A source said Marinatto's exit had been building for weeks. The source said the basketball members in the Big East were upset that they had no say in the expansion process.

    Marinatto also wanted to accept a TV deal a year ago but was shot down by a 12-4 vote with Georgetown leading the charge not to accept.

    Joseph Bailey, a recruiting firm executive who has in the past held positions as CEO of the Miami Dolphins and administrative VP of the Dallas Cowboys, will assume the commissioner's post on an interim basis while a search is conducted, the conference said.

    "Joe is a proven leader who will do a terrific job guiding the conference through this time of transition," said Judy Genshaft, South Florida president and chair of the Big East, in the statement. "His experience as a manager and his knowledge of the sports industry make Joe uniquely qualified."

    Marinatto became Big East commissioner in July 2009, succeeding Mike Tranghese.

    In that time, the league has lost three of its founding members -- Pitt, Syracuse and West Virginia -- and perhaps its spot as one of the top tier conferences in the country.

    CBSSports.com has reported Marinatto was asked to resign Sunday night.

    "I know I speak for the entire Conference when I express my sincere gratitude to John for his leadership and dedicated years of service," Genshaft said. "John helped build the Big East into what it is today, and played a critical role in our successful expansion efforts, and for all of that we thank him."

    The Big East seemed to be in good shape just one year ago. The league added TCU, one of the top non-AQ programs in the country, and was looking to expand further.

    But dominoes fell in other conferences, and Pitt and Syracuse decided to jump to the ACC in September, de-stabilizing the conference.

    Other Big East schools then began to scramble in attempts to find other homes. After Missouri and Texas A&M decided to move to the SEC, the Big 12 turned to TCU -- which never played a down as a Big East member -- and West Virginia.

    That led to dueling lawsuits between West Virginia and the Big East -- the Mountaineers sued to get out of the required 27-month waiting period before exiting. The Big East filed its own suit to keep West Virginia in the league.

    A financial settlement was reached, and the Big East was left scrambling for an eighth member for 2012. Temple was added at the last minute. Meanwhile, Boise State and San Diego State had also been added as football-only members, along with SMU, Central Florida, Houston and Memphis for 2013. Navy is set to join in 2015.





    In addition, Louisville athletic director Tom Jurich was a close confident of Marinatto and his pending departure has pushed the Cardinals to further consider the Big 12 if they can get an invitation from the current 10-team league, a source said.

    And Connecticut is known to covet a move to the ACC.

    Multiple industry sources said that one of the reasons the Mountain West Conference didn't expand beyond 10 football members with the addition of San Jose State and Boise State was in case they wanted to return.

    Boise State is slated to put its other sports in the WAC in 2013. But with the WAC facing a decline in membership, the Broncos are looking at the Big West, where the Aztecs' non-football teams will play, mulitple sources have said.

    Marinatto had come under increasing fire for not doing enough to keep the league from falling apart. While those additions have kept the league viable, without its flagship schools, the Big East has been left with a major perception problem.

    With the BCS headed for major changes in the next postseason cycle, it remains unclear whether the Big East will be among the top conferences when it comes to revenue distribution from BCS money.

    Automatic qualifying status is already gone, which many believe could have a major impact on the Big East and the addition of new members Boise State and San Diego State. The conference is also set to begin negotiating a new television deal in September.

    While the Big East is in line for a significant bump in TV revenue, it remains unclear just how big the boost will be with the newest additions. Few people in the industry expect the Big East to garner what the ACC has gotten, for example. The Big East has its spring meetings set to begin May 21 in Ponte Vedra Beach, Fla.
  • Chrispy
    Needs a hobby
    • Dec 2008
    • 11403

    #2
    Marinatto also wanted to accept a TV deal a year ago but was shot down by a 12-4 vote with Georgetown leading the charge not to accept.
    GJ guys, how is that working out for u guys now? :gayrod:

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    • Senser81
      VSN Poster of the Year
      • Feb 2009
      • 12804

      #3
      Marinatto was possibly the least effective administrator in college athletics history. Perhaps he can get a job on the Fiesta Bowl Committee.

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      • Warner2BruceTD
        2011 Poster Of The Year
        • Mar 2009
        • 26142

        #4
        Originally posted by cpollack09
        GJ guys, how is that working out for u guys now? :gayrod:
        You have to understand the politics within the Big East.

        The basketball schools don't give a fuck about football, and rightly so, because for many years the Big East was a basketball driven league that not only didn't need football to sustain itself, it also didn't even have football to begin with.

        From the basketball schools point of view, the football realignment is bullshit that could potentially kill their golden goose. Tiny religious institutions like Georgetown, Providence, etc were largely non entities before the Big East. A traditional hoops power for many decades like St John's would have likely ended up in the MAAC and eventually fallen into irreverence had the Big East not been formed some 30 years ago.

        So what happens in these meetings, for many years, is the basketball schools basically vote against anything that favors football. Miami & VT wants to go? Fuck off, we'll bring in traditional powers DePaul & Marquette. WVU wants out? Who cares, call Temple, it's a good program. Nobody cares about schools like that. But when Pitt & UConn got antsy, that was the final straw, and now it's a blood feud between the hoops & the football. The hoops teams don't want to travel to Dallas to play SMU, and they don't wan't their RPI's dragged down by Navy. I the case of Georgetown, they really don't need this shit, because basketball is just a diversion from pumping out future congressmen and presidents.

        The Big East hoops teams are eventually going to split and become a 8 or 10 team hoops league, with a few of the weaker football schools like Memphis. Big East football, hopefully, will no longer exist, and asshat programs like Syracuse and UConn can continue to lack any relevance in leagues where it will be harder for them to win to begin with.

        Football (and really, the BCS more than anything) destroyed a great, great basketball league.

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        • Atlas
          BRACK FRIDAY BUNDURU!!!!!
          • Feb 2010
          • 7949

          #5
          Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
          WVU wants out? Who cares, call Temple, it's a good program. Nobody cares about schools like that. But when Pitt & UConn got antsy, that was the final straw, and now it's a blood feud between the hoops & the football. The hoops teams don't want to travel to Dallas to play SMU, and they don't wan't their RPI's dragged down by Navy.
          Just so we are clear, you know pitt and cuse decided to leave well before WVU, yes? And more so, TCU and WVU leaving killed that conference, b/c right now, football is all that matters in the college sports world, and basketball is well behind. Don't believe me? Watch the tobacco road mafia make terrible decision after terrible decision so they can try to uphold their bball prestige, and then have FSU and Clemson bolt for greener pastures (UMD and GT too, possibly). I love basketball and I absolutely loved the BET in MSG, but all of that matters very little in the college sports world right now, its a football driven place right now.

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          • Senser81
            VSN Poster of the Year
            • Feb 2009
            • 12804

            #6
            Originally posted by Atlas
            And more so, TCU and WVU leaving killed that conference, b/c right now, football is all that matters in the college sports world, and basketball is well behind. Don't believe me? Watch the tobacco road mafia make terrible decision after terrible decision so they can try to uphold their bball prestige, and then have FSU and Clemson bolt for greener pastures (UMD and GT too, possibly). I love basketball and I absolutely loved the BET in MSG, but all of that matters very little in the college sports world right now, its a football driven place right now.
            Lets say FSU and Clemson decide to leave the ACC...would anyone in the ACC really care? Maybe for Clemson, because they are a traditional school, but I don't think that conference would be that devastated because its still a basketball-first conference. The same was true for the Big East. When the football powers like Miami and BC left, it wasn't that big of a deal because its still a bball-first conference. The problem was/is when the conference started adding ridiculous schools just to boost its football status.

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            • Atlas
              BRACK FRIDAY BUNDURU!!!!!
              • Feb 2010
              • 7949

              #7
              Originally posted by Senser81
              Lets say FSU and Clemson decide to leave the ACC...would anyone in the ACC really care? Maybe for Clemson, because they are a traditional school, but I don't think that conference would be that devastated because its still a basketball-first conference. The same was true for the Big East. When the football powers like Miami and BC left, it wasn't that big of a deal because its still a bball-first conference. The problem was/is when the conference started adding ridiculous schools just to boost its football status.
              i agree with everything you've said (except for BC being a football power), but the ACC will lose two huge bargaining chips (FSU and Clemson) for when they negotiate TV deals with ESPN/anyone else... Right now, Swofford told ESPN he wouldn't take less than $21 million a year per team (b/c thats what FSU wants); ESPN countered with $18, whereas they could get $30 per year in the B12... FSU's recent money woes, and the fact that they were and still are pissed that Cuse and Pitt where brought in over better football programs all but means their fate is sealed... Unless ESPN gives into Swofford, the ACC is in big trouble (although a BE/ACC merger would make for a fapworthy bball conference)... But it still holds true, all the money is in football, and that is what makes the college world turn right now...

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              • Senser81
                VSN Poster of the Year
                • Feb 2009
                • 12804

                #8
                Originally posted by Atlas
                i agree with everything you've said (except for BC being a football power), but the ACC will lose two huge bargaining chips (FSU and Clemson) for when they negotiate TV deals with ESPN/anyone else... Right now, Swofford told ESPN he wouldn't take less than $21 million a year per team (b/c thats what FSU wants); ESPN countered with $18, whereas they could get $30 per year in the B12... FSU's recent money woes, and the fact that they were and still are pissed that Cuse and Pitt where brought in over better football programs all but means their fate is sealed... Unless ESPN gives into Swofford, the ACC is in big trouble (although a BE/ACC merger would make for a fapworthy bball conference)... But it still holds true, all the money is in football, and that is what makes the college world turn right now...
                I agree with everything you said (BC being a football power is a relative term..."in the Big East"), but I don't agree with your "money is all" assessment. I think the good, stable conferences (ACC, Big10, even the SEC) are on financially solid ground...so they aren't the conferences selling themselves to the highest bidder. To use your scenario, I don't think the ACC schools are going to start jumping conferences over $3 million in football TV money. And I don't see the ACC being in "big trouble". To the mid-level schools and the mid-level conferences, the money is a huge factor because they need it to survive.

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                • Warner2BruceTD
                  2011 Poster Of The Year
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 26142

                  #9
                  Atlas im not really arguing any of your points. The Big East hoops schools know this, too. They know what the end game is, and are basically sticking it to the football schools in the meantime.

                  This story ends with Georgetown, Providence, Seton Hall, Marquette, DePaul, Villanova, Temple, St Johns et al in some combination forming a hoops centric league, with the Big East name if the right person ends up in charge of the league.

                  Basically, right back where it started 30 years ago.

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                  • Atlas
                    BRACK FRIDAY BUNDURU!!!!!
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 7949

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Senser81
                    I agree with everything you said (BC being a football power is a relative term..."in the Big East"), but I don't agree with your "money is all" assessment. I think the good, stable conferences (ACC, Big10, even the SEC) are on financially solid ground...so they aren't the conferences selling themselves to the highest bidder. To use your scenario, I don't think the ACC schools are going to start jumping conferences over $3 million in football TV money. And I don't see the ACC being in "big trouble". To the mid-level schools and the mid-level conferences, the money is a huge factor because they need it to survive.
                    The ACC is negotiating a new TV contract as we speak, so I dont get that portion of your argument... As for the money, FSU would stand to lose $12 million a year by not changing conferences, and thats a huge deal considering the schools recent budget crises... Clemson is just attached at the hip to w/e FSU does, so everyone should keep an eye of FSU for the coming months...

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                    • Senser81
                      VSN Poster of the Year
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 12804

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Atlas
                      The ACC is negotiating a new TV contract as we speak, so I dont get that portion of your argument... As for the money, FSU would stand to lose $12 million a year by not changing conferences, and thats a huge deal considering the schools recent budget crises... Clemson is just attached at the hip to w/e FSU does, so everyone should keep an eye of FSU for the coming months...
                      FSU is kind of like a bastard child of the ACC to begin with. I think Clemson is more entrenched in the ACC, but thats just my opinion. Why do you see them as being attached to FSU?

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                      • Atlas
                        BRACK FRIDAY BUNDURU!!!!!
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 7949

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Senser81
                        FSU is kind of like a bastard child of the ACC to begin with. I think Clemson is more entrenched in the ACC, but thats just my opinion. Why do you see them as being attached to FSU?
                        They won't make a move on their own, but wait to see what FSU is going to do and follow suit... Mostly b/c Clemson sees themselves as more like FSU than the triad schools... Only time will tell...

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