What teams have improved the most this off-season?

[Champ]

Nobody said the Chargers? I honestly think they scored huge with their offseason. Lemme explain.

They lost Vincent Jackson -- While obviously a blow to the team, I really don't think it's as big a blow as people like to think it is. Although he can consistently post 1000 yards, last year Jackson had the 16th most yards, surrounded by the likes of Nate Washington and Jordy Nelson. He posted the 22nd total yards per game.

They picked up Robert Meachem, Eddie Royal, Roscoe Parrish and drafted TE Ladarius Green -- While they lost the star receiver, they were able to build up a much more balanced receiving core. Expect Rivers to go off this year. Fantasy pick for me.

And let's not forget the acquisitions of safeties Atari Bigby and Brandon Taylor, linebackers Jarret Johnson and Melvin Ingram and defensive lineman Kendall Reyes. With the 11th most scored against defense and a middle-of-the-pack yards against, the Chargers did a lot to improve their defense.

I dont see that as being a great offseason at all. You picked up Bigby who is a waste. Jarret Johnson who played in at a great defensive system. And a bunch of offensive scrubs.

[Wrath]

Bengals
Chargers (Great Draft)
Bucs
Eagles

[RosettaStoned]

Can't believe nobody has mentioned the Patriots. They killed the draft IMO.

[Berowsk]

I dont see that as being a great offseason at all. You picked up Bigby who is a waste. Jarret Johnson who played in at a great defensive system. And a bunch of offensive scrubs.

"You"?

[Guest]

Nobody said the Chargers? I honestly think they scored huge with their offseason. Lemme explain.

They lost Vincent Jackson -- While obviously a blow to the team, I really don't think it's as big a blow as people like to think it is. Although he can consistently post 1000 yards, last year Jackson had the 16th most yards, surrounded by the likes of Nate Washington and Jordy Nelson. He posted the 22nd total yards per game.

They picked up Robert Meachem, Eddie Royal, Roscoe Parrish and drafted TE Ladarius Green -- While they lost the star receiver, they were able to build up a much more balanced receiving core. Expect Rivers to go off this year. Fantasy pick for me.

And let's not forget the acquisitions of safeties Atari Bigby and Brandon Taylor, linebackers Jarret Johnson and Melvin Ingram and defensive lineman Kendall Reyes. With the 11th most scored against defense and a middle-of-the-pack yards against, the Chargers did a lot to improve their defense.

The thing about losing VJax is that there is now a huge hole as far as a playmaker goes. We all know you can't count on Antonio Gates to make it through a season and he will be 32 when the season starts. Same goes for Malcom Floyd, who just can't avoid the nagging injuries and break out. I don't think Meachem and Royal equate to Jackson, I'm sorry.

They also did not address the depth along the offensive line, and they suffered a lot of injuries last season.

I do like the Johnson and Ingram additions. Some feel Johnson is a system player, but the dude is a workhorse and will fulfill whatever role the coaching staff wants him to do. Bigby is still a waste of space.

They did OK, but I wouldn't say it was a great off-season by any means. There isn't a huge potential game changer in that group that will step up immediately and play at an elite level.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Not the Jaguars.

Lulz Mularkey...pretty awful draft...overspent on average players in free agency...missed an easy lay up to acquire Tim Tebow.

Name me something the Jaguars did RIGHT.

[Berowsk]

Locked down the punter spot for the next 15 years?

I've been saying for so long that that punter is mad special. Dude's coffin corners and 1 yard line drops are fucking amazing.

[Berowsk]

Whoops

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Locked down the punter spot for the next 15 years?

Would have traded that 3rd rounder for this guy is that was the case...



lolpunter.

The Jaguars have used a 3rd and a 4th rounder in the past FIVE YEARS on punters.

3rd and a 4th round pick over FIVE YEARS...on PUNTERS...PUNTERS!!!!

[Blick]

LOL @ 1st round upside.

Does that mean that Jamarcus Russell still has some upside left too? Just because a guy went in the first round 5 years ago doesn't mean he has any kind of upside left. Palko wasn't great but I wouldn't call BQ an upgrade over anyone at this point. The Broncos staff was doing anything they could to give him the #2 job outright in Denver and he even had a chance to beat out Orton going into the last preseason game and then came out and shit the bed.

The guy has never shown that he will be able to adjust to the pro game on a number of levels.

Russell was run out of the league. No, he no longer has upside. Quinn is still in the league, so yes, he still has upside.

Good comparison.

[Blick]

There's plenty of talent on the Broncos... We have two bookend tackles on offense and now that we have a right handed QB Orlando Franklin won't be relied upon to protect the QBs blind side and can just maul guys.

We have two good young wideouts in Eric Decker and Demaryius Thomas with Thomas showing flashes of possibly being great now that he has some experience, and a guy throwing the ball to him with pinpoint accuracy. They upgraded at TE when they brought in Jacob Tamme to replace Daniel Fells and have Julius Thomas coming back from injury this year who they took in the 4th round last year and was looking great before getting hurt.

I don't know much about Ronnie Hillman but I know he can't be worse than Knowshon Moreno.

We have two top 5 pass rushers in Dumervil and Von Miller.

We replaced the useless Andre Goodman with Drayton Florence and Tracy Porter and we still have Champ Bailey and a second year guy in Chris Harris who was showing flashes down the stretch last year and supposedly the kid they drafted from Az. St. in the 4th was a 2nd round talent before he got hurt.

Oh and we signed some QB from Indy who is supposed to be pretty good from what I hear.

This is not a good poster glen post.

Orlando Franklin? Dude is a 2nd year player. Pro Football Focus gave him a negative 9.1 grade. Good run blocker, struggled in pass protection...for a team that threw the ball a league low 429 times. He'll probably be asked to pass protect over 100 more times this year with Manning.

The young WR's are good. No doubt.

Jacob Tamme doesn't scare anyone, and nobody knows who Julius Thomas is (why should they).

Hillman is a rookie, so you have no idea if he'll be worse or better than Moreno.

The pass rushers are good, but they're not top 5. I'll give you top 10.

Champ wishes he had more help in the secondary.

Outside of what everyone knows you have (Manning, the young wideouts, the pass rushers, Clady), the team is pretty meh and you're counting on rookies and guys who "showed flashes".

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

If Peyton Manning is still Peyton Manning the Broncos win the whole damn offseason thing.

Because Manning is Manning, whoever plays TE becomes scarey, Jacob Tamme, Joel Dressen...the wide outs become scarier...if a RB can block and catch passes, becomes scarey, too. Deficiencies in pass protection are made less with Manning and his control and manipulation of the pocket. Sure, Big O needs to play the interior, but he wasn't a bad rookie last year considering he's kind of out of position at RT.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

As for the Broncos D...added a lot of guys on the DL and in the DB group. If you don't hit a big name, its all about bodies and guys that fit...I think for what the Broncos set out to do, they did very well. Added Wolfe (their first pick), Jackson, Harvey, Bannan...at DB, Porter, Florence, Adams, Bolden, Judie...

They definitely went into the off-season with a plan and I think they executed said plan very well.

[Blick]

If Peyton Manning is still Peyton Manning the Broncos win the whole damn offseason thing.

Because Manning is Manning, whoever plays TE becomes scarey, Jacob Tamme, Joel Dressen...the wide outs become scarier...if a RB can block and catch passes, becomes scarey, too. Deficiencies in pass protection are made less with Manning and his control and manipulation of the pocket. Sure, Big O needs to play the interior, but he wasn't a bad rookie last year considering he's kind of out of position at RT.

That's a big if, though. We don't know how his health is going to play out.

As for the Broncos D...added a lot of guys on the DL and in the DB group. If you don't hit a big name, its all about bodies and guys that fit...I think for what the Broncos set out to do, they did very well. Added Wolfe (their first pick), Jackson, Harvey, Bannan...at DB, Porter, Florence, Adams, Bolden, Judie...

They definitely went into the off-season with a plan and I think they executed said plan very well.

That's a pretty unimpressive group of guys you just mentioned. Like I said, the Broncos are counting on a lot of unknowns. Manning's health, the rookies that have been mentioned, Julius Thomas "looking great before getting hurt", Chris Harris "flashing", etc.

I don't know how anyone can say they've improved so much with all of these unproven guys and a brokeneck QB.

[FUSE]

You try to make a point about Orlando Franklin being bad at pass blocking and that being a negative since Denver will pass more with Manning. Yes, Denver will pass more next season, that much is obvious. However, what you are forgetting is that Tebow was the qb last year and the grade of the oline took a hit because he was behind center and held the ball for a considerable amount of time.

Manning, even if his arm isn't what it used to be, is probably one of the best in the history of the game at reading defenses and can have the ball out in 3 seconds, not 8-10 like Tebow. I am not worried about Franklin and his ability to pass block for Manning. Also, Franklin won't be blocking Manning's blindside, so he will be able to see rushers coming from that end.