PSU Freeh Report: Leaders Concealed Information & Did Not Act to Help Kids

[ryne candy]

Just saw ESPN interviewing his son and him saying how its just one chapter.....yeah, but it's a big ass chapter. Simpson was known for his HOF career before killing two people (allegedly) and now everyone knows him for the white bronco. O.J. killed 2 people, who happened to have a HOF career. Joe Pa allowed children's lives to be ruined, who was at Penn State for X years and won X # of games.

[shag773]

Just saw ESPN interviewing his son and him saying how its just one chapter.....yeah, but it's a big ass chapter. Simpson was known for his HOF career before killing two people (allegedly) and now everyone knows him for the white bronco. O.J. killed 2 people, who happened to have a HOF career. Joe Pa allowed children's lives to be ruined, who was at Penn State for X years and won X # of games.

Speaking as one of the only PSU fans here addressing this, let me just say this..

 

Jay, please shut the fuck up..

[Warner2BruceTD]

Just so we are all clear ...

Changing grades or players selling their own property = punishable by the NCAA

school-sanctioned serial child rape = not punishable by the NCAA

That makes lots of sense.

"School sanctioned rape" is punishable by prison.

Not an NCAA issue, nor should it be. Bigger than a silly football team.

And again, everybody is gone. What exactly are we punishing with sanctions, intangible things like ideas?

[Maynard]

"School sanctioned rape" is punishable by prison.

Not an NCAA issue, nor should it be. Bigger than a silly football team.

And again, everybody is gone. What exactly are we punishing with sanctions, intangible things like ideas?

you keep with this way of thinking and im gonna start calling you ramjackson

[NAHSTE]

"School sanctioned rape" is punishable by prison.

Not an NCAA issue, nor should it be. Bigger than a silly football team.

And again, everybody is gone.

True. Everyone knows that as long as the perpetrators of a violation are no longer affiliated with a university, the NCAA drops all charges against said university...

[FedEx227]

"School sanctioned rape" is punishable by prison.

Not an NCAA issue, nor should it be. Bigger than a silly football team.

And again, everybody is gone. What exactly are we punishing with sanctions, intangible things like ideas?

Then disband the NCAA. If it can't punish a University or a University's football program for putting their team and their program in front of federal crimes it shows a real lack of perspective. It really proves once and for all that the NCAA has no concept of reality in regards to the power athletic programs hold over big D1 schools.

[FedEx227]

True. Everyone knows that as long as the perpetrators of a violation are no longer affiliated with a university, the NCAA drops all charges against said univerisity...

[NAHSTE]

EVERYONE IS GONE. PROBLEM SOLVED. PERVASIVE AND SYSTEM-WIDE CORRUPTION NO MORE.

[Warner2BruceTD]

True. Everyone knows that as long as the perpetrators of a violation are no longer affiliated with a university, the NCAA drops all charges against said university...

Horrible example again.

The Penn St situation is a criminal case, the NCAA has no power here, and should have no power here. Their job is to handle shit that effects the playing field. Small potatoes compared to a criminal case involving child rape.

Those involved are already being punished. Throwing sanctions on Bill O'Brien accomplishes what, exactly? And based on what grounds? If a football coach commits armed robbery, do we punish the football team? How about a string of DUI's? Not the NCAA's role.

Child rape is like the worst thing you can do, and it triggers something in our brains. I get it. But the NCAA has no jurisdiction over criminal issues that do not in some way improperly benefit the on field product, nor should they. This isnt a competition issue.

[Warner2BruceTD]

EVERYONE IS GONE. PROBLEM SOLVED. PERVASIVE AND SYSTEM-WIDE CORRUPTION NO MORE.

What if Sandusky robbed a bank, and it was covered up. And Penn St fired everybody. All facts remain the same, except replace "child rape" with "bank robberies".

Are you still putting the footballl team out of business?

[FirstTimer]

Horrible example again.

The Penn St situation is a criminal case, the NCAA has no power here, and should have no power here. Their job is to handle shit that effects the playing field. Small potatoes compared to a criminal case involving child rape.

Those involved are already being punished. Throwing sanctions on Bill O'Brien accomplishes what, exactly? And based on what grounds? If a football coach commits armed robbery, do we punish the football team? How about a string of DUI's? Not the NCAA's role.

Child rape is like the worst thing you can do, and it triggers something in our brains. I get it. But the NCAA has no jurisdiction over criminal issues that do not in some way improperly benefit the on field product, nor should they. This isnt a competition issue.

Bad examples on your part IMO.

It's not that the rapes occurred from the NCAA perspective, it's that the athletic program used their clout and pull at the school to cover them up and conceal them. yeah the NCAA can't technically punish PSU for the rapes themselves but they sure as hell can punish the school/football team for their part in covering them up. There's a difference.

[Maynard]

Horrible example again.

The Penn St situation is a criminal case, the NCAA has no power here, and should have no power here. Their job is to handle shit that effects the playing field. Small potatoes compared to a criminal case involving child rape.

Those involved are already being punished. Throwing sanctions on Bill O'Brien accomplishes what, exactly? And based on what grounds? If a football coach commits armed robbery, do we punish the football team? How about a string of DUI's? Not the NCAA's role.

Child rape is like the worst thing you can do, and it triggers something in our brains. I get it. But the NCAA has no jurisdiction over criminal issues that do not in some way improperly benefit the on field product, nor should they. This isnt a competition issue.

perhaps it will make these universities, organizations, and corporations take a moment and rethink covering up criminal activity for the sake of revenue and reputation. Maybe next time they will opt to report it instead of allowing 10+ years of child rape to take place

[Warner2BruceTD]

Bad examples on your part IMO.

It's not that the rapes occurred from the NCAA perspective, it's that the athletic program used their clout and pull at the school to cover them up and conceal them. yeah the NCAA can't technically punish PSU for the rapes themselves but they sure as hell can punish the school/football team for their part in covering them up. There's a difference.

I guess my disconnect here is I don't really care about the football team at this point, and don't see what sanctions would accomplish. Sanctions are for cheaters, which is small time compared to what we have here. Seems petty to me.

I wouldn't lose sleep if the NCAA came down on Penn St, but I don't think it's their place to do so in this case.

And there is precedent for what I am saying, because the NCAA always goes easier on schools when they clean house on their own before the NCAA sticks their nose in.

Where is the precedent for the NCAA getting involved in a criminal case?

[Warner2BruceTD]

perhaps it will make these universities, organizations, and corporations take a moment and rethink covering up criminal activity for the sake of revenue and reputation. Maybe next time they will opt to report it instead of allowing 10+ years of child rape to take place

Ah yes, i'm sure school presidents everywhere would then, and only then, realize that covering up child rape is bad, because it could result in the football team being punished.

Do you see how silly that sentence sounds? This is bigger than football, and I don't think that message needs to be sent.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I guess my disconnect here is I don't really care about the football team at this point, and don't see what sanctions would accomplish. Sanctions are for cheaters, which is small time compared to what we have here. Seems petty to me.

I wouldn't lose sleep if the NCAA came down on Penn St, but I don't think it's their place to do so in this case.

And there is precedent for what I am saying, because the NCAA always goes easier on schools when they clean house on their own before the NCAA sticks their nose in.

Where is the precedent for the NCAA getting involved in a criminal case?

Paying a potential student-athlete = NCAA intervention.
Raping many potential student-athletes = NCAA intervention unneeded because its too big for them.

Gotcha.