Washington Redskins 2012 Projected Starters

[Fight'On]

Do you see Chase Minnifield ever breaking the starting lineup?

I think Minnifield will start by midseason.

[Slateman]

I've been a Redskins fan in the DMV area for almost 30 years. OP has vastly overrated the team.

Fletcher is the only A level player. Orakpo and Riley are the only B level players. Everyone else is B- and below.

RG3 has shown NOTHING. He is a rookie. Red Grossman is one of the worst QBs in the NFL. That's not depth. That's a prayer.

There isn't a single RB on the team that has shown he can produce for even most of the season. But there is depth, as you would expect.

Receiver .... Prove it. Garcon has yet to really show he can be a number 1. Hankerson had ONE good game. Every else after that is fodder and hope.

Tight End is goods, if Davis can stay sober and Cooley can stay healthy. Big ifs.

Offensive Line is another bunch of ifs. If Trent can stay sober. If Licht. can return to form. If Brown can stay healthy. Bottom line is that this squad is meh and still lacks depth.

Defensive line is good but still missing a true NT. Will be interesting to see if Neild can improve and take over that role.

Brian Orakpo is the most overrated player, by Redskins fans. Please do not whine to me how he gets "held every play and the refs just don't want to call it." It's crap. He isn't geting doubled every play either. He just isn't the superstar level player you want him to be. He has a limited range of pass rushing moves, he is sub-par against the run, and he is an abortion in pass coverage.

Kerrigan is better.

ILB is this team's strength. Fletcher is awesome and his replacement has already been drafted. Riley is a stud in the making. He will have a breakout year.

The entire secondary is filled with career underachievers. It with be garbage. Its only hope is that the pass rush will keep it from being exposed.

A seven win season from this team. Would be fantastic

[Guest]

I've been a Redskins fan in the DMV area for almost 30 years. OP has vastly overrated the team.

Fletcher is the only A level player. Orakpo and Riley are the only B level players. Everyone else is B- and below.

RG3 has shown NOTHING. He is a rookie. Red Grossman is one of the worst QBs in the NFL. That's not depth. That's a prayer.

There isn't a single RB on the team that has shown he can produce for even most of the season. But there is depth, as you would expect.

Receiver .... Prove it. Garcon has yet to really show he can be a number 1. Hankerson had ONE good game. Every else after that is fodder and hope.

Tight End is goods, if Davis can stay sober and Cooley can stay healthy. Big ifs.

Offensive Line is another bunch of ifs. If Trent can stay sober. If Licht. can return to form. If Brown can stay healthy. Bottom line is that this squad is meh and still lacks depth.

Defensive line is good but still missing a true NT. Will be interesting to see if Neild can improve and take over that role.

Brian Orakpo is the most overrated player, by Redskins fans. Please do not whine to me how he gets "held every play and the refs just don't want to call it." It's crap. He isn't geting doubled every play either. He just isn't the superstar level player you want him to be. He has a limited range of pass rushing moves, he is sub-par against the run, and he is an abortion in pass coverage.

Kerrigan is better.

ILB is this team's strength. Fletcher is awesome and his replacement has already been drafted. Riley is a stud in the making. He will have a breakout year.

The entire secondary is filled with career underachievers. It with be garbage. Its only hope is that the pass rush will keep it from being exposed.

A seven win season from this team. Would be fantastic

It's a preseason thing, I am more optimistic than most and you've got to give the team some slack, six games were lost by one possession. The Redskins could have easily won those and with some extra talent, they could. I'm not saying they will.

RGIII is already better than what we put out there last season. Kid is as smart as they come, has the athletic ability and is going to start right away. Depth is solid, as Grossman is terrible as a starter but he's the kind of guy you want as a backup, someone who knows the system and can step in if needed. Cousins was also factored into the equation.

Running back, it seems that we agree on.

Garcon, I see what you mean. Like I said, he has the speed and has a great mentality, it's his hands that need work. I honestly think we have some good receiver depth. Morgan is a great blocker and has good speed. Santana Moss at this point should be playing much more in the slot, and Anthony Armstrong is a good weapon to have as the fourth receiver, where you can use his speed to exploit the fourth or fifth defensive back. Last year, it seems that everyone was playing a slot above the depth chart that they should have. Agree on TEs as well.

I also agree with your assessment of the offensive line. I will say that OL is one of the few spots where a team can be greater than the sum of their parts, and we saw that through the first quarter of last season before everyone got injured. We still don't have the depth here I would like, especially at tackle.

Disagree about Cofield, I think he did pretty well for his first season in a new position, and if Jenkins comes back and plays like coaches expected him to last season, all three starters will benefit from the extra time off.

I am confused on how you say Kerrigan is better than Orakpo, yet Orakpo and Riley are the only B level players. I'd like some clarification on that, though it seems we both see the front seven as the strength of this team and they will likely have to carry the secondary.

We also agree about the secondary. The Redskins have the most "talent" right now, but each player is an underachiever, save for Wilson, who is a good man corner but is not a #1.

Seeing that we agree on a lot of things, maybe I was too generous with the grades? I can certainly see that from someone else's perspective, but I do know the faults on this team. Some of which have been the same for years. But it's the pre-season, we tend to be a little more optimistic than if I were to do this leading up to Week 1 and grade out the actual roster.

[x0xHumblex0x]

i like the write-up TT........

although; i am one those that favor seeing Helu over Hightower.....
i also see no reason to have kept Grossman as a backup. he is just simply terrible. going for all or bust with RGIII would be just fine with me. i would rather see Jamarcus Russell as backup, lol. bring back McNabb for all i care.....Rex should not be on this team.

WRs is good to go....even though Moss is going to be a bit more fragile.

TEs; we are good with Davis. Cooley will be there but he hasnt done much since he broke his leg a few seasons ago.

Offensive line staying healthy is key as well......just like for any other team.

Defense; overall will be challenging. we have been solid over the last few years, even since the loss of ST years ago.
the problem is offense with the lack of sustaining drives. 3 and out all will tire our defense by halftime with not much in the tank for the 2nd half. which is why we lose so many games in the 4th qtr

but
still good stuff......nice to see other Skins fans on this site


MFer

[Aso]

I still question how good a blocker Cooley really is. A lot of TE's end up being declared good blockers when they become elite pass catches. People use to tell me how Clark was a complete TE but now we know dude can't block worth a shit.

I also question how good their RB depth is too. After Helu and Hightower you might be in a little bit of trouble. And you never know what will happen to those RB's.

[Slateman]

Cooley's a good blocker. I don't even know how that came up. All you have to do is watch him.

TT - I'm tired of being optimistic. It's like this every year. This year I choose to be skeptical/realistic. Shanahan is just starting the rebuild he should have started three years ago. I'm not buying. Doesn't mean I won't watch games and cheer, but I'm not drinking the Kool Aid.

[SuperKevin]

Redskins cut rookie CB Chase Minnefield today and signed FA CB David Jones

[ralaw]

LOL, weren't a lot of fans high on Minnefield? I never understood why.

[Fight'On]

LOL, weren't a lot of fans high on Minnefield? I never understood why.

He had to have surgery, that's why he was cut from reading around if he clears waivers he'll be resigned and placed on IR

[Guest]

LOL, weren't a lot of fans high on Minnefield? I never understood why.

Because he has the height that the Redskins have lacked at corner, and he attended Virginia, so he had that local connection.

He had to have surgery, that's why he was cut from reading around if he clears waivers he'll be resigned and placed on IR

Sounds good, unless the Patriots decide they want to claim him themselves.

[Fight'On]

He cleared waivers and is back with the Skins

[ralaw]

I feel sorry for RG3, because IMO Redskins fans and media are being unreasonable with expectations. A lot of them believe he should have a season similar to Cam Newton.

[Guest]

I feel sorry for RG3, because IMO Redskins fans and media are being unreasonable with expectations. A lot of them believe he should have a season similar to Cam Newton.

Why not? I think he'll have anywhere between 3400 and 3700 yards and end up with a 2-1 TD/INT ratio.

What a lot of people don't realize is that RGIII is extremely smart, and has studied this playbook all off-season with Kirk Cousins. He made it through high school in 3.5 years, his batchelors in 3 and he's going for his Masters currently. He's got a solid team around him, specifically one of the better defenses and weapons he can grow with.

That's even before you factor in his athletic gifts and his upbringing.

I don't think his numbers will be as high as Newton, but he'll be just as successful at the end of the season, and his team may very well end up with more wins.

[ralaw]

Why not? I think he'll have anywhere between 3400 and 3700 yards and end up with a 2-1 TD/INT ratio.

What a lot of people don't realize is that RGIII is extremely smart, and has studied this playbook all off-season with Kirk Cousins. He made it through high school in 3.5 years, his batchelors in 3 and he's going for his Masters currently. He's got a solid team around him, specifically one of the better defenses and weapons he can grow with.

That's even before you factor in his athletic gifts and his upbringing.

I don't think his numbers will be as high as Newton, but he'll be just as successful at the end of the season, and his team may very well end up with more wins.

All of that sounds great but people have to remember that Newton finished with the greatest rookie season ever. I've heard people say that if he finishes with numbers similar to Andy Dalton it would be a dissapointment. I expect him to be a great player down the road, but I feel that if he doesn't come out of the gate throwing for 250 yards, running for 50 and getting 3 touchdowns per game people are going to questioning trading the house for him. I just think Redskins fans need to cool it a bit.

[nwfisch]

All of that sounds great but people have to remember that Newton finished with the greatest rookie season ever. I've heard people say that if he finishes with numbers similar to Andy Dalton it would be a dissapointment. I expect him to be a great player down the road, but I feel that if he doesn't come out of the gate throwing for 250 yards, running for 50 and getting 3 touchdowns per game people are going to questioning trading the house for him. I just think Redskins fans need to cool it a bit.

Heck, I don't think RGIII will ever be worth what they traded to get him. It's too bad the Skins have an owner who is more concerned with making waves than building a quality football team.