Meeting Goes Wrong, Cutler Officially asks to be Traded

[killgod]

McDaniels seems more wrong then Cutler does imo.

Why?

Because he's taking the stance of, "I'm the fucking boss and it's my fucking team?" :flex:


If he caved to Cutler's faggotry the rest of the team could view that in a bad manner for him. A new coach doesn't want to show that..no? If there's one thing McD is going to take with him from NE it's whatever BB does to keep all those players in check. Cutler keeps running to the media blowing up these stories with poor interpretations to make the Broncs look bad like he's been doing the entire time.


Quit the gay personal shit, football is a m'fin business where WINNING is most important. New Coach wants a QB that's not going to choke and throw INT's (i.e. LOSING).........so what? It's his team, he can roll out any kind of offence he wants. Cutler thinks he's earned something by playing losing football and choking away a division? What...because he made the fucking pro bowl or something? The most useless accomplishment in football? It's fan driven......it's an f'n popularity contest. The only thing Cutler has proved is that Brandon Marshall is a sick WR and he's a poor imitator of Brett Favre.


Outside of the initial denial of trade, McDaniels isn't doing much wrong IMO. He's setting the tone for how things will work for him.


Some of you guys are lame as fuck. "How would you feel if your boss wanted to get rid of you? Waaaaaahhh" Fucking feelings? Feelings? Give me a break.

[killgod]

Cutler had a bunch of young WR's who were actually getting somewhere this past season, and would have gotten better over the years learning the system. The only thing McDaniels had to do was get the right defensive players in their slots and the Broncos would be even better then they were last year. The fact that McDaniels and whoever else was involved were trying to acquire a new QB, shows that this team is clueless. Cutler did a lot considering how many RBs they went through last year, none of which were chizzled veterans.They should be talking about getting a RB in there, as well as patching up one of the worst defenses ever in Denver, not talking about acquiring a possible 1 year wonder from NE. Nobody realizes it's a business more than me around here, but even I can see through the bullshit that is going on in Denver, and it looks like Cutler is making the right decision here by packing up his bags, and waiting in the lobby for his cab outta there. Just to show I still love you KG here is a cool smiley lol.

lol.

Clueless? How so? Cutler is a SB capable QB? Cause I don't see it losing more than winning meaning that.

Yeah he had no running game.......so he threw more often to pad his stats? So does that mean his numbers are overrated because of RB injuries? He's still turning the ball over close to two times a game with or without RB's to hand off to.

You cannot win consistently with those kind of turnovers and I don't see that changing with how he plays the game.

As for the drama......was it not Cutler that initially stirred up shit asking for a trade.....even before they tried to swing that three team deal? Like c'mon.



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"If you can fire a Mike Shanahan, you can trade a kid like that," an NFL source said. "Everyone is disposable in this league. And (Cutler's) a guy who hasn't proven a thing yet. He's had some great statistics, but he hasn't won a thing yet.

"It's well known that Cutler is a highly sensitized person, but what are we really talking about here? A guy's feelings got hurt? In my mind, this is so much ado about nothing. The smartest thing Cutler can do is just shut up."

[Hasselbeck]

::Contemplates straight-up trade for Cutler...

Garrard for "Give this kid a candybar!"::

I'm guessing McDaniels would prefer a QB that doesn't suck.

Thus Garrard is eliminated

[celtsxpatsxsox]

This past year was his second year full time starter, he didn't have any veteran WRs so when the receivers made mistakes they were BIG. Not sure who you are comparing him too, but go look up Elways numbers and you will see some similarities. It's hard to judge how hard Shanny's system really is but I guess sitting around the house high on a message board makes you the expert here. Cassell had a grade A offense for the most part and an amazing coaching staff. The fact of the matter is, and this is the most important....WHY THE FUCK ARE THE BRONCOS SHOPPING FOR A QB when they have so many other problems?

And the part of the amazing coaching staff that worked with him and called his plays is now coaching in Denver. I honestly dont see how far fetched it was the McDaniels rather have a QB that he has worked with for about 5 seasons than a guy with a known attitude problem.

[killgod]

This past year was his second year full time starter, he didn't have any veteran WRs so when the receivers made mistakes they were BIG. Not sure who you are comparing him too, but go look up Elways numbers and you will see some similarities. It's hard to judge how hard Shanny's system really is but I guess sitting around the house high on a message board makes you the expert here. Cassell had a grade A offense for the most part and an amazing coaching staff. The fact of the matter is, and this is the most important....WHY THE FUCK ARE THE BRONCOS SHOPPING FOR A QB when they have so many other problems?

Well the Broncos obviously wanted to get away from whatever Shanahan was doing. What would be so different for Cassel coming into Denver? Moss/Welker for Marshall/Royal......a downgrade yes, but not much of one. Both teams have banged up RB's that picked at random on game day. And Cassel has a year in the offensive system to be put in place in Denver. He'd be a step up for where Cutler would be regardless of talent levels.

Compare Cutler to Elway? Sure.

Jay Cutler has started 37 games with a record of 17-20.
John Elway after starting 37 games had a record of 25-12.

Passing stats are fun for fantasy football and pro bowl voting.




p.s. Who the fuck sits around the house on VSN? Only on company time. ;)

[mgoblue2290]

You can keep dreaming that we'll send Ernie Sims and the number 1 pick overall. If Ernie is involved it'd probably the the 33rd overall pick.

I don't really get why you guys say Cutler is completely in the wrong. Did he handle the situation very well, no not at all. McDaniels handled it way worse in my opinion. When you take a job as a coach I understand you want to make some changes, but trying to trade one of the top 10 qbs in the league behind his back is low.

McDaniels basically came into the situation and tried to make a smooth move that turned disastrous for the team. Cutler has every right to be pissed, one of the best offensive minds in the game bet the house on him and it was paying off. I mean it was his third year in the pros, he's getting settled in and his career was really looking up. Now McDaniels rolls in and says yeah this Cutler guy, fuck him, Matt Cassel is legit.

The Broncos were a team right on the brink of being an NFL power, they just needed some defensive guys. Offensively they pretty much had all the pieces in place, it was the defense that needed help. McDaniels should have been fully focused on building up that Bronco defense, he would've looked like a great coach next year when Denver probably went 11-5. As a first time head coach he officially pissed off the franchise QB, and probably messed up locker room morale. Now Denver doesn't know who is going to be taking snaps this fall and that is not a good way to start your season when you want to contend for a Super Bowl title next season.


All that said, I hope Cutler comes to Detroit because watching his cannon arm throw it deep to Calvin Johnson would be amazing. I'll gladly give up our 20th pick and one of our third rounders. I like Cutler, I think he could've moved into top 5 QB status after this upcoming season.

[DSpydr84]

lol at everyone just assuming Detroit wants this to happen. As a Lions fan, I say keep the draft picks and the money. He's not worth the baggage.

[FirstTimer]

Come to Chicago Jay.

[killgod]

lol @ the notion that passing alot is an excuse for throwing more interceptions.

looking at stats when the game is tied is a mislead stat. all games start off tied do they not?


so those numbers show he turns the ball over the most when he's losing? lol at the idea of Cutler wearing a lions jersey. :D

[mgoblue2290]

Most of the time you'll be watching him make tackles.

I don't know, I think if we did get Cutler we'd draft an offensive tackle at number 1. He'd have some time to make throws.

lol at everyone just assuming Detroit wants this to happen. As a Lions fan, I say keep the draft picks and the money. He's not worth the baggage.

Detroit does want this to happen, they were part of the three team trade that would've brought Cutler here which started this whole thing. Why wouldn't they want a good QB who is actually proven in the NFL to throw to possibly the wide receiver with the most potential in the league.

Draft picks are great, proven players who have been in the league for three years and made the pro bowl at the QB position are even better. This addresses a need we'd either have to figure out in this draft, or the next one.

[Archer]

In the last 3 games of the season Jay Cutlers stats were as followed...

Week 15 @ Carolina - 21/33 172yards 1td 1int
Teams rushing v Carolina (not counting Cutlers rushes) 20 Carries 112 Yards 5.6 YPC

Week 16 at home to Buffalo - 25/45 359yards 0td 1int
Teams rushing v Buffalo (not counting Cutler) 19 Carries 161yards Around 8 YPC

Week 17 @ San Diego - 33/49 316yards 1td 2int
Teams rushing v San Deigo (not counting Cutler) 8 Carries 86Yards 10.75 YPC

In the most important 3 games off the season according to stats (since cutler supporters love them so much) Denver had a run game , and Cutler had 3 mediocre performance.

ps. I added the stats up myself so if i made a mistake please feel free to inform me. (using nfl.com)

[Senser81]

Because he's taking the stance of, "I'm the fucking boss and it's my fucking team?" :flex:


Outside of the initial denial of trade, McDaniels isn't doing much wrong IMO. He's setting the tone for how things will work for him.

Thats nice. If McDaniels' only way to show his authority is to threaten to get rid of players, then he is already in WAY over his head. I smell Lane Kiffin version 2. What "tone" is McDaniels setting here? Thats an interesting choice of words on your part. Perhaps you can explain what you mean and tell us why this is a positive for McDaniels (or, perhaps you can't).

[mgoblue2290]

He had time here! I think he was sacked like 4 times last year. Our tackles gave up a combined 1 sack. The guy doesn't make rushed decisions, he makes stupid decisions. I can tell you haven't see many Broncos games.

No I haven't seen many Broncos games considering they are never on in my area. Most of what I know is from a friend of mine who is a diehard Broncos fans and watches the games on the web.

So you are not a fan of Cutler than, glen?

[DSpydr84]

Detroit does want this to happen, they were part of the three team trade that would've brought Cutler here which started this whole thing. Why wouldn't they want a good QB who is actually proven in the NFL to throw to the best wide receiver of our era.

Draft picks are great, proven players who have been in the league for three years and made the pro bowl at the QB position are even better. This addresses a need we'd either have to figure out in this draft, or the next one.

Fixed your statement about Calvin.


And I think the last couple of posts in between this one and yours will speak for me. He's a drama queen, and really not the player people make him out to be. I see him as a Brett Favre Jr., and I've always hated Brett Favre (maybe I'm biased).

[Archer]

Also to add to the no run game stat , Denver had the 12th best rush game in the nfl last season averaging 4.8 Yards per carry and 116.4 Yards per game

Jay Cutler was also sacked 10times in the whole nfl season , less than alot of quarterbacks.