Steelers getting screwed

[Atlas]

[RosettaStoned]

the fact that ive watched football for 25 years and understand the cycles teams go through.
the Steelers defense is getting older..and is older already

The Steelers don't go through those cycles, and their best defensive players aren't old. Their secondary (#1 against the pass) is pretty young. Woodley and Timmons aren't old, Ziggy Hood isn't old.

I'm pretty sure you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. They are actually getting better as the year goes on as the younger guys are getting playing time in the secondary.

[Senser81]

It did seem fixed at the start of the game. But I think that can be chalked up to Bill Leavy's crew just doing their typical poor job. The Giants couldn't really do much except lob the ball up and hope for a pass interference call. I don't really understand the Roethlisberger call...for the tuck rule, the QBs arm could possibly not be going forward, but as long as the QB hasn't tucked the ball away it can still be an incomplete pass. Roethlisbeger's arm was going forward when the ball slipped out. Uh...

My favorite call was when Leavy overturned the Giant personal foul call against Mike Wallace. Wallace had caught the ball, was on the ground, was about to get up, when the Giants player lowers his helmet and spears Wallace right in the face. I was thinking the officials were huddling up to announce an ejection...but Leavy waved the penalty off. A few plays later, Rainey of the Steelers gets speared in the stomach by a Giants player after he'd been tackled on a punt return, and almost suffered internal organ failure. No call.

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

If those calls were made by replacement refs there would have been bricks thrown on the field.
Giants got handjob calls all day.

[kmanharris]

If those calls were made by replacement refs there would have been bricks thrown on the field.
Giants got handjob calls all day.

This goes back to me arguing that the actual refs aren't under as big of a microscope as the replacement refs were. I also stated that, because of said microscope, nobody would call the actual refs out for the exact same stuff the replacement refs were called out for. Almost everyone tried to tell me that wouldn't happen. Well, where's the media backlash? The fans calling for their heads?

Hypocrits.

[bucky]

This goes back to me arguing that the actual refs aren't under as big of a microscope as the replacement refs were. I also stated that, because of said microscope, nobody would call the actual refs out for the exact same stuff the replacement refs were called out for. Almost everyone tried to tell me that wouldn't happen. Well, where's the media backlash? The fans calling for their heads?

Hypocrits.

I didn't watch the Steelers/Giants game so I can't comment on it. But I haven't seen a Packer game ref'd as poorly as the Seattle game in any of the Packer games since. Some bad calls, sure, but not anything like that GB/Seattle game. I'll take the regular refs. You keep your microscope.

[ram29jackson]

The Steelers don't go through those cycles, and their best defensive players aren't old. Their secondary (#1 against the pass) is pretty young. Woodley and Timmons aren't old, Ziggy Hood isn't old.

I'm pretty sure you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. They are actually getting better as the year goes on as the younger guys are getting playing time in the secondary.

avg age 30.1

every team goes through the cycle...sure, I 'll say Pitt does a better job of it and last a couple more years on average then alot of teams but the older guys are still the reason they win or lose no matter how good the young guys are getting at this moment just like the end of last year. A quality team but still wont be good enough at the end

[RosettaStoned]

avg age 30.1

every team goes through the cycle...sure, I 'll say Pitt does a better job of it and last a couple more years on average then alot of teams but the older guys are still the reason they win or lose no matter how good the young guys are getting at this moment just like the end of last year. A quality team but still wont be good enough at the end

The older guys aren't the reason they win or lose lol... Troy P hasn't played, and Harrison has been average at best. Keenan Lewis has been amazing opposite of Taylor. Mundy and Clarke have played really well. I'm pretty sure you don't see many Steelers games, because you have no idea who's doing what on that team. You hear ESPN call them old and parrot it, even though it's the younger guys making that defense one of the best in the league.

[RosettaStoned]

This goes back to me arguing that the actual refs aren't under as big of a microscope as the replacement refs were. I also stated that, because of said microscope, nobody would call the actual refs out for the exact same stuff the replacement refs were called out for. Almost everyone tried to tell me that wouldn't happen. Well, where's the media backlash? The fans calling for their heads?

Hypocrits.

They aren't marching off penalties wrong and giving teams extra timeouts, extra challenges, and fucking up the clock and two minute warning.

Don't get carried away.

[kmanharris]

I didn't watch the Steelers/Giants game so I can't comment on it. But I haven't seen a Packer game ref'd as poorly as the Seattle game in any of the Packer games since. Some bad calls, sure, but not anything like that GB/Seattle game. I'll take the regular refs. You keep your microscope.

So you take one of the worst calls to end a game and that's what you use as your litmus test? Ok, Bucky. What about the 1 or 2 other games where the Packers got screwed over by calls? Just because it doesn't directly cost a team a game doesn't mean they aren't awful calls.

They aren't marching off penalties wrong and giving teams extra timeouts, extra challenges, and fucking up the clock and two minute warning.

Don't get carried away.

But they ARE making a lot of mistakes and bad calls, yet there's no uproar. I'm not going to get into it again because I was right, nobody would bring up any bad/awful calls once the normal refs came back.

[RosettaStoned]

Doesn't this thread prove you wrong?

[ram29jackson]

The older guys aren't the reason they win or lose lol... Troy P hasn't played, and Harrison has been average at best. Keenan Lewis has been amazing opposite of Taylor. Mundy and Clarke have played really well. I'm pretty sure you don't see many Steelers games, because you have no idea who's doing what on that team. You hear ESPN call them old and parrot it, even though it's the younger guys making that defense one of the best in the league.

ok child pay attention. I told you 25 years of watching football. I dont parrot nothing man LOL

rah rah you like your team, thats wonderful sweetness. Hear espn call them old ? no, the average age is 30.1 = that means they're old.

best in the league? their conference record is 2-3 of a 5-3 record. Baltimore is 5-1. As good as the individuals are doing it wont translate to team success come playoff time.

last year wasnt a bump in the road, it was part of the decline

[kmanharris]

Doesn't this thread prove you wrong?

This is the first time someone here has complained about the normal refs, however not the first (or second, third, etc) that the refs made big errors.

If you can't see the difference then

[RosettaStoned]

This is the first time someone here has complained about the normal refs, however not the first (or second, third, etc) that the refs made big errors.

If you can't see the difference then

No its not.. Maybe you should pay more attention.

[bucky]

So you take one of the worst calls to end a game and that's what you use as your litmus test? Ok, Bucky. What about the 1 or 2 other games where the Packers got screwed over by calls? Just because it doesn't directly cost a team a game doesn't mean they aren't awful calls.

You watched that game and saw only one bad call at the end? I saw half a dozen horrible calls in the second half of the fourth quarter alone.

Where did I say ONE BAD CALL? I thought I was talking about entire GAMES.