Why don't more teams run more no huddle?

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  • kmanharris
    Seven
    • Oct 2008
    • 6427

    Why don't more teams run more no huddle?

    Why do teams wait until they are down in the 4th quarter or the time is running out in the 2nd? Why doesn't someone try and base their offense out of the no huddle?

    For instance, look at Dallas' TD drive last night. We looked like complete and utter shit all game but in the 4th quarter, down 10, we ran a no huddle and went 80 some odd yards in 2 minutes and 30 seconds. The Atlanta defense was clearly gassed and that resulted in absolutely zero pass rush. The Dallas offense just seemed to run so much more efficiently. I sometimes wonder why we don't run the no huddle more frequently throughout the game.

    Is it just not sustainable over longer periods of time? Are coaches just afraid to do something that wouldn't be considered "normal?"
  • MrBill
    Billy Brewer Sucks Penis
    • Feb 2009
    • 0

    #2
    Dallas has no reason not to run the no huddle more often. It worked great for them in the 2nd half last week vs. the Giants and last night in the 4th quarter vs. the Falcons. Both of those teams have pretty good defenses and the Cowboys were moving the ball almost at will. If not for the Scandrick missed tackle and holding penalty, the Cowboys would have likely won last night had they been able to get the ball back with 2-3 minutes left on the clock.

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    • Aso
      The Serious House
      • Nov 2008
      • 11137

      #3
      I think part of it is fatigue will set in much quicker if you run it too much. It would take more conditioning in the off-season and training camp I would think to be able to do this a lot.

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      • kmanharris
        Seven
        • Oct 2008
        • 6427

        #4
        Originally posted by Aso21Raiders
        I think part of it is fatigue will set in much quicker if you run it too much. It would take more conditioning in the off-season and training camp I would think to be able to do this a lot.
        So start it in the off-season. Get your guys in shape. The no huddle is a huge weapon for the offense and puts the defense is such a touch spot.

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        • Primetime
          Thank You Prince
          • Nov 2008
          • 17526

          #5
          Packers consistently run no huddle and it allows for so many opportunities, especially with substitution penalties against the opposing team.

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          • kmanharris
            Seven
            • Oct 2008
            • 6427

            #6
            Originally posted by Primetime
            Packers consistently run no huddle and it allows for so many opportunities, especially with substitution penalties against the opposing team.
            See, I don't watch a lot of Packer games so I wouldn't know. You always want to have an advantage over your opponent and the no huddle gives the offense a HUGE advantage. Coaches seem to be reluctant to call it unless the first half is about to end or they are down in the 4th quarter.

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            • UMnPluke
              Noob
              • Feb 2009
              • 35

              #7
              Patriots are another team that runs it quite a bit, regardless of what point in the game they're at.

              As far as Dallas goes, I couldn't agree more. The running game hasn't looked great all season, and especially now with Murray out it just makes sense in my mind to open it up for Romo. Sure, he's going to make some mistakes but they don't have much to lose at this point so might as well see if he can do more good things than bad things.

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              • kmanharris
                Seven
                • Oct 2008
                • 6427

                #8
                Originally posted by UMnPluke
                Patriots are another team that runs it quite a bit, regardless of what point in the game they're at.

                As far as Dallas goes, I couldn't agree more. The running game hasn't looked great all season, and especially now with Murray out it just makes sense in my mind to open it up for Romo. Sure, he's going to make some mistakes but they don't have much to lose at this point so might as well see if he can do more good things than bad things.
                When we run the no huddle, I feel that Romo is in a position where he doesn't have to over think the situation. Playing a little backyard ball is right up his alley. It also allows the plays to be in much quicker and we won't have the playclock running down to under 3 seconds every play.

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                • UMnPluke
                  Noob
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 35

                  #9
                  Originally posted by kmanharris
                  When we run the no huddle, I feel that Romo is in a position where he doesn't have to over think the situation. Playing a little backyard ball is right up his alley. It also allows the plays to be in much quicker and we won't have the playclock running down to under 3 seconds every play.
                  Agreed. That's when he's at his best. They gotta curb the penalties in general though since that's one way to slow down a hurry-up offense in a heartbeat.

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                  • Point Blank
                    Needs a hobby
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 14184

                    #10
                    Matt Ryan runs it pretty well, couldn't really get in rhythm with it last night though.

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                    • wr50l
                      Glen & CJ are secret Huns
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 4114

                      #11
                      i'll tell you why, unimaginative coaches and/or untrustworthy quarterbacks.

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                      • Bane
                        Noob
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 495

                        #12
                        the Falcons were running a defense that allowed cowboys to take those underneath routes with ease to move up the field. yes that will gas out the pass rush but they didnt want to get beat deep.

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                        • kmanharris
                          Seven
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 6427

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Creamy Hamstrings
                          the Falcons were running a defense that allowed cowboys to take those underneath routes with ease to move up the field. yes that will gas out the pass rush but they didnt want to get beat deep.
                          So, you're saying the no huddle wouldn't be effective if the Falcons were calling their "normal" defense? A gassed pass rush=no pass rush=the QB having all day to throw. There's only so much time the secondary can stay with their man.

                          And your post leads me to another question. Why do NFL coaches play like such bitches when they are winning the game? That pisses me off to no end.

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                          • Maynard
                            stupid ass titles
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 17876

                            #14
                            Originally posted by wr50l
                            i'll tell you why, unimaginative coaches and/or untrustworthy quarterbacks.
                            thats basically it right there. coaches want to make it seem like the nfl is rocket science only for the elite minded. they dont want to believe that a hokie gimmick scheme like the no huddle is what wins games. they want to make everyone think its their genius gameplans and 20 hour work days that make for a SB champ.

                            the other side is the coach not believing in his QB to do the job. they wont even let a QB call an audible or their own plays so there is no way to expect a QB to run a no huddle. Plus they fear mistakes and turnovers. this type of thinking is so damaging to a team too. The lack of confidence resonates down to everyone on the team and creates a losing mentality.

                            in defense, not every team has the QB to do the job or the personal to run things effectively. Then you also have to consider the defense. running an up tempo offense keeps the dee on the field alot longer then anyone would like

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                            • bucky
                              #50? WTF?
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 5408

                              #15
                              You have to have the QB for the No Huddle to work. NE has Brady, GB has Rodgers. That's probably one of the big reasons coaches don't do it more often.

                              And you can't compare the No Huddle effectiveness at the end of each half to it being as successful during the rest of the game. Teams go into this conservative deep zone defenses at the end of games and allow underneath completions.

                              It can be very effective if you have the right QB to run it. And it's at it's most effective when you can get a miss-match in defensive personal that the no huddle doesn't allow the defense to make any subs/adjustments.

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