Your teams Mount Rushmore

[Shayn•Da•Pain]

The Steelers could have 2 mount rushmores:

Mean Joe Greene
Terry Bradshaw
Franco Harris
Mel Blount

Rod Woodson
Mike Webster
Jack Ham
Jack Lambert

Bettis/Stallworth would be the odd man out I guess? I really don't know how good Stallworth was.

Some say Stallworth was better than Swann. I mean he had a longer career, more 1,000 yd seasons (Swann never had 1,000 yds in a season). Stallworth & Swann came into the league together in 1974, Swann played till 82, Stallworth till 87. If you look at their numbers from 74-82, Swann averaged 16.3 ypc - Stallworth 17.7, Swann 334 receptions - Stallworth 299, Swann 5462- Stallworth 5304. That being said I think the measure by which anybody thinks Swann is better or deserves more acclaim than Stallworth would have to be the aerial show Swann put on in those iconic SB catches. Outside of that these guys were equals as I see it.

Shiiiit, the Steelers could have a Rushmore of Owners/Coaches, QB's/WRs, RB/OL, DL, LB, CB/S.

O/Coach - Art Rooney, Noll, Cowher, Tomlin. Each coach has won a SB
QB/WR - Bradshaw/BigBen/Swann/Hines
RB - Harris/Bettis/Webster/Darmontti Dawson - great RBs with two of the best centers in the history of football
DL - Joe Greene, LC Greenwood, Aaron Smith, Earnie Stautner
LB - Lambert, Ham, Harrison, Greg Lloyd, Joey Porter, Kevin Green, Levon Kirkland, James Farrior, Chad Brown, Jason Gildon, LaMarr Woodley - take your pick. Ham+Lambert are locks though. Maybe even split this into two rushmores ILB - OLB.
DB - Mel Blount, Rod Woodson, Troy Polamalu, Donnie Shell

I thought someone did a Rushmore of Steelers brass (obviously doesn't include Swann)?

It's really crazy that it's hard to find room for guys like Hines Ward and Jerome Bettis on the Steelers Rushmore. I do think that Terry Bradshaw could be on a Mount Rushmore of pure icons, where as I think he's dropped when we're talking skill/results.

I did, it was all owners/coaches for the Rushmore.

What's this about Terry Bradshaw's skill/results? You do realize you're talking about the first QB ever to win two SB's right? The Blond Bomber. I mean this guy didn't have an offensive coordinator calling plays for him, no. He was down there calling his own plays from the huddle, beating great innovative coaches like John Madden and Tom Landry who both called the shots. Bradshaw was hard to bring down, always made big plays in big games, and simply won when other's might not have. Skill/results? Please.

[DomePatrol]

Drew Brees
Sean Payton
Willie Roaf
Rickey Jackson

[Shayn•Da•Pain]

For me, keeping him off the Niners Rushmore has less to do Young and more to do with how great Lott was. I have a ton of respect for Young and his career, but Lott a HOF player with 4 rings. Tough to keep him off...

I agree with you. I really like Young and all, but that MFer had some GREAT teams, and to only pull off 1 SB win I hate to say overrated because he's obviously one of those QB's that stood out head and shoulders obove most of his competition, but he played an injury shortened career, didn't have the longevity you want to see from a HOF/rushmore candidate, but God he was great.

That being said, when you asked who the best WR of all time was, it's Rice. Likewise for most people until Reed or Polamalu, it was always Lott. Many would still say Lott.

[ram29jackson]

Drew Brees
Sean Payton
Willie Roaf
Rickey Jackson

sheesh, you guys need to think past your existence. Its mount Rushmore..not my best all star team I can think of now.
you have to think of a 50 year span or more, not a lousy 10 or 20 years. Its not just who's got a lot of stats or who is more successful or who you like. George Washington may not have been the best or most successful President but he was the beginning of a great country...Sean Payton or even Drew Brees is easily replaced by Archie Manning. The true forefather of that organization let alone a forefather of the NFLs current success through 2 sons

[DomePatrol]

Im not taking away anything from Archie but it's hard to go against the QB who brought the Saints its only Super Bowl trophy and took them to their first ever NFC championship in 06. If somebody, such as yourself, wanted to put Archie on there I wouldn't really be opposed to it I just think Brees/Payton have done more than any other combination of Saints QB and coach.

[G-men]

sheesh, you guys need to think past your existence. Its mount Rushmore..not my best all star team I can think of now.
you have to think of a 50 year span or more, not a lousy 10 or 20 years. Its not just who's got a lot of stats or who is more successful or who you like. George Washington may not have been the best or most successful President but he was the beginning of a great country...Sean Payton or even Drew Brees is easily replaced by Archie Manning. The true forefather of that organization let alone a forefather of the NFLs current success through 2 sons

While I agree that Archie should be on the Saints Rushmore, lol at using what his kids turned into as a reason.

[Shayn•Da•Pain]

Nah, no Archie on my NO rushmore. No way.

Brees - Head and shoulders above Archie in terms of what he did for that city, winning, stats, raising that team to top quality rather than Archie's "Aint's". Besides the fact that Archie never made an all-pro team, and only two pro-bowls. How many winning seasons did Archie have? ZERO, his best season was 8-8. His career record was 35-101-3 for crying out loud. For as many fans that say he was great, there are two more fans from his day that would say he stunk, just like the rest of the Aint's did back then.
Daren Sharper - How anybody leaves him off this list is beyond me. 63 career INT's, 11 touchdowns. Three times lead the NFL in INTs returned for touchdowns. 5 time pro-bowler+2allpro 1st teams.
Willie Roaf - Elite LT. One of the best of all time. Pure Beast.
Sam Mills - The 5'8" Sam Mills never got a SB, but his teams overall sucked balls. 5 times he had 100+ tackles, 5 pro bowls, he was super consistent, and in an era with many dominant MLBs he was always considered one of the best.

[ram29jackson]

Nah, no Archie on my NO rushmore. No way.

Brees - Head and shoulders above Archie in terms of what he did for that city, winning, stats, raising that team to top quality rather than Archie's "Aint's". Besides the fact that Archie never made an all-pro team, and only two pro-bowls. How many winning seasons did Archie have? ZERO, his best season was 8-8. His career record was 35-101-3 for crying out loud. For as many fans that say he was great, there are two more fans from his day that would say he stunk, just like the rest of the Aint's did back then.
Daren Sharper - How anybody leaves him off this list is beyond me. 63 career INT's, 11 touchdowns. Three times lead the NFL in INTs returned for touchdowns. 5 time pro-bowler+2allpro 1st teams.
Willie Roaf - Elite LT. One of the best of all time. Pure Beast.
Sam Mills - The 5'8" Sam Mills never got a SB, but his teams overall sucked balls. 5 times he had 100+ tackles, 5 pro bowls, he was super consistent, and in an era with many dominant MLBs he was always considered one of the best.

You are still basing your decisions on trendy logic. A mount Rushmore is an all time encompassing monument. Archie Manning provided good quality moments and was a true professional through the bad for a long time. You cant give Rushmore status just because a QB gave you 2 and a half years of really cool outcomes. Just like the Hall of Fame, you don't need championships to get there.

...what the hell does Darren Sharper have to do with Saints history ? 2 years does not qualify him for one team.

so by your logic of the Saints sucking...Sam Mills qualifies but Manning doesn't ? go read some books for a while and come back with better comprehension skills. And wait 10 years so you learn what "history" really means

[Golden Taters]

Darren Sharper on the Saints Mount Rushmore? LOL

brb gonna go edit my post and put Jerry Rice on the Seahawks Mount Rushmore

[Villain]

I don't really get the disrespect that Young gets. I know a lot of people think he is overrated, but how can someone be overrated when everyone thinks he is overrated. If that makes sense.

Maybe it's just because I was a kid that watched Young every week and thought he was just amazing. If not for concussions, his career stats would be much better.

That's not me hating on Steve Young, it's me giving love to the franchise leader at RB.

[shag773]

That's not me hating on Steve Young, it's me giving love to the franchise leader at RB.

For me, you can at least make a halfway sensible argument for putting Young over Lott. Frank Gore? Not even close to being there yet. If we are talking about the Saints or Falcons, than a guy like Gore gets consideration. He might make his way into the conversation at some point, but right now he's not even close. Too many HOFers to consider.

[Juggernaut]

JETS
QB Joe Namath
DL Joe Klecko
DL Mark Gastineau
WR Don Maynard
Also could consider- RB Curtis Martin, CB Darrelle Revis

Wouldn't put Revis above anyone on the Mountain right now, I could see an argument for Martin over Klecko. Maynard/Namath/Gastineau are locks.

For the Steelers, imo I'd go-
Joe Greene
Jack Lambert
Mel Blount
Jack Ham

[ram29jackson]

Bears
George Halas
Bronco Nagurski -or-Sid Luckman-or- Red Grange
Walter Payton
Mike Ditka

[jaxjaggywires]

For the Jags:

Gene Smith
Hugh Douglas
Matt Jones
R. Jay Soward

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

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That's not me hating on Steve Young, it's me giving love to the franchise leader at RB.

I'll be the first to knock Young down on a list of all time greats. But Gore? Holy Jesus. I wouldn't even put him in over Craig /Perry/Mclenehey.
Rams is right you guys are just picking best players in your memory and losing sight of historical context. There's no way you put Gore over Young. His storyline is arguably the most fascinating of any 49er. I'm not sure I can think of a player under more pressure... More scrutinized in his career... Yet delivered success in NFL history like Young did.

I hate including coaches /owners but I get why.
Montana/Rice/Lott are no brainers.
Walsh/Young/Debartolo are the only options for 4th.
Gore can Google maps this Rushmore because he's nowhere near it.

Fwiw Archie > Sean Payton.

Lastly I'm not even bothering with the Steelers. They can fill the grand Canyon with greatness.