Tebow done?

[FirstTimer]

This is kind of my point.

He already proved he can play, if anybody thinks otherwise, well, I have no time for that discourse because it's ludicrous to think otherwise and we've been there, done that. Nobody wants a superstar third string QB on the roster for obvious reasons (see Jets circus last season). If he's anonymous, with his skill set, he's on a roster with no issue.

He was 1-4 in his last 5 starts. I don't really think he can play at all. He had a nice little flukey run and it collapsed. He's a footnote and a gimmick at QB.

If he's anonymous he's been playing H-back for the last 5 years. A lot of this is currently Tebow's fault. For all the humble Christian bullshit he refuses to switch positions out of what seems to be nothing more than hubris.

[Warner2BruceTD]

He was 1-4 in his last 5 starts. I don't really think he can play at all. He had a nice little flukey run and it collapsed. He's a footnote and a gimmick at QB.

If he's anonymous he's been playing H-back for the last 5 years. A lot of this is currently Tebow's fault. For all the humble Christian bullshit he refuses to switch positions out of what seems to be nothing more than hubris.

Not going to go in circles with you, because by this point everybody is already firmly planted in their stance in either direction and minds aren't going to be changed.

I don't understand the switching positions nonsense. He's a QB. A backup QB, a gimmick QB, but a QB. He's dangerous on the field as a QB. He's just a guy as a FB or H-back or whatever. To me, he has no value in that role, all of his value is as a gadget QB. I'd rather draft/sign/find a real FB.

[FirstTimer]

Not going to go in circles with you, because by this point everybody is already firmly planted in their stance in either direction and minds aren't going to be changed.

I don't understand the switching positions nonsense. He's a QB. A backup QB, a gimmick QB, but a QB. He's dangerous on the field as a QB. He's just a guy as a FB or H-back or whatever. To me, he has no value in that role, all of his value is as a gadget QB. I'd rather draft/sign/find a real FB.

To me I see no value in him as a QB or a FB or an H-back. I was just making the point that if he's "anonymous" there isn't a line of teams around the block for him to play back up QB. He's been an H-Back for 5 years by this point.

[Glenbino]

Not going to go in circles with you, because by this point everybody is already firmly planted in their stance in either direction and minds aren't going to be changed.

I don't understand the switching positions nonsense. He's a QB. A backup QB, a gimmick QB, but a QB. He's dangerous on the field as a QB. He's just a guy as a FB or H-back or whatever. To me, he has no value in that role, all of his value is as a gadget QB. I'd rather draft/sign/find a real FB.

Never understood why people kept trying to say moving him was the right thing to do either..

Outside of the QB position his athleticism is nothing to write home about and he has no experience catching the football, taking a handoff, feeling out blocks along the line, run/pass blocking, tackling, playing in coverage or anything else that a move would require.

If he can't or won't learn everything he needs to know to play QB in the 10 or so years he's been playing the position, then I don't see how he would seamlessly pick up the nuances of another position.

That said, I still think that he could be a reasonable backup for a team where the starter is entrenched. If you throw this kid on a team where there could even be a hint of a QB battle would just be another disaster.

He may have been getting bad advice for so long by now though where he's a lost cause.

[Houston]

The only reason Tebow isn't on an NFL roster is because a specialist isn't worth the trade off for the constant scrutiny the organization will get from ESPN & others. It's a massive distraction. If Tebow was the same player but a guy who was unknown that the media didn't care about, he'd have teams lined up around the block to make him a backup.

Not saying I don't believe it(obviously it's true). I'm saying I can't believe teams are this stupid.

A sad state for the league when organizations are even considering things like scrutiny from ESPN, while making important choices.

[ram29jackson]

the product of home schooling and being the man at a college. A little too self absorbed and not self aware enough.

[Rayman]

Buncha scaredy cat coaches and GMs in this league. That front office debacle with Ryan has scared people stiff to even give him a look.
Tebow should be contributing somewhere and if he isnt wowsers.

I don't think that's scaredy cat at all. Who wants to deal with that kind of distraction? If your starting QB is anything but flawless and this guy's on the sideline, it'd be nothing short of a disaster.

[Tailback U]

This is kind of my point.

He already proved he can play, if anybody thinks otherwise, well, I have no time for that discourse because it's ludicrous to think otherwise and we've been there, done that. Nobody wants a superstar third string QB on the roster for obvious reasons (see Jets circus last season). If he's anonymous, with his skill set, he's on a roster with no issue.

He hasn't proven shit. Derek Anderson was a top 10 QB one year. Hundreds of QB's have put together one good season and then fizzled out.

Tim Tebow sucks at QB and some of you are so stubborn and blind that you actually think you know more than NFL head coaches, scouts, and owners who have been involved with the game for literally decades.

Sorry but I'm going to side with a defensive mastermind who was born and raised by people who taught professional football players how to play the game over some of you who have never coached a day in your lives.

He could easily play another position and succeed at it but he's an egotistical prick.

I'm glad he is done. No surprise whatsoever that he couldn't remember plays considering he can't even put a complete sentence together. Fuck that stupid ignorant godcocksucking motherfucker.

[JimLeavy59]

He hasn't proven shit. Derek Anderson was a top 10 QB one year. Hundreds of QB's have put together one good season and then fizzled out.

Tim Tebow sucks at QB and some of you are so stubborn and blind that you actually think you know more than NFL head coaches, scouts, and owners who have been involved with the game for literally decades.

Sorry but I'm going to side with a defensive mastermind who was born and raised by people who taught professional football players how to play the game over some of you who have never coached a day in your lives.

He could easily play another position and succeed at it but he's an egotistical prick.

I'm glad he is done. No surprise whatsoever that he couldn't remember plays considering he can't even put a complete sentence together. Fuck that stupid ignorant godcocksucking motherfucker.

But clutch.

[Houston]

some of you are so stubborn and blind that you actually think you know more than NFL head coaches, scouts, and owners who have been involved with the game for literally decades.

Looking at some of the decision making displayed by coaches, scouts, and owners...I wouldn't say it's such a crazy idea.

[Tailback U]

Never understood why people kept trying to say moving him was the right thing to do either..

Outside of the QB position his athleticism is nothing to write home about and he has no experience catching the football, taking a handoff, feeling out blocks along the line, run/pass blocking, tackling, playing in coverage or anything else that a move would require.

If he can't or won't learn everything he needs to know to play QB in the 10 or so years he's been playing the position, then I don't see how he would seamlessly pick up the nuances of another position.

That said, I still think that he could be a reasonable backup for a team where the starter is entrenched. If you throw this kid on a team where there could even be a hint of a QB battle would just be another disaster.

He may have been getting bad advice for so long by now though where he's a lost cause.

You're acting like playing fullback is the toughest position in sports.

Players switch positions all the time in football. Someone intelligent enough to play the QB position should be intelligent enough to play fullback. Quarterbacks have turned into fullbacks (Michael Robinson), wide receivers into fullbacks (Marcel Reece), tight ends into OTackles (Joe Staley), safeties/receivers into linebackers (Brian Urlacher), etc., etc.

Tebow's biggest asset is his toughness and leadership. I have little doubt that he could be a great fullback if he wanted to.

[Tailback U]

Looking at some of the decision making displayed by coaches, scouts, and owners...I wouldn't say it's such a crazy idea.

Like what? List some examples.

Have they been wrong before? Of course. But does that mean that you people that sit here and watch him play 11 days a year know more than guys that watch him day in and day out for years?

[Tailback U]

But clutch.

Clutch doesn't matter when you complete 34% of your passes and your team is down by 35 points in the playoffs.

[Houston]

Like what? List some examples.

Have they been wrong before? Of course. But does that mean that you people that sit here and watch him play 11 days a year know more than guys that watch him day in and day out for years?

Don't have to know more than someone to be right while they are wrong.

[Tailback U]

Don't have to know more than someone to be right while they are wrong.

Ok so you're right and everyone else is wrong and you've proved it.

Good conversation. Stick to anime and reality TV.