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  • Warner2BruceTD
    2011 Poster Of The Year
    • Mar 2009
    • 26142

    NBC Week 13 NFL Pregame Show

    It's long, but pretty interesting. I greatly preferred the pregame shows from this era to the nonsense we get today, but the show structure is obviously pre internet, and gambling focused as opposed to fantasy focused. Also, I should note that nobody watched NBC. CBS had the dominant NFC, and was considered the premier pregame show with stars like Brent Musberger, gambling expert Jimmy the Greek, & token black guy Irv Cross.

    -The first thing Costas does is go over every game on the slate, and he gives QB updates. The big mystery of the day, was Gary Danielson or Bernie Kosar lining up behind center for the Browns. Remember, for fans in 1985, ESPN was not what it was now, and you couldn't just click the website for a Cleveland paper to see if Kosar was practicing every day. This was often times your first & only update on injuries all week - a half hour before the game started. Costas drops an Oliver Luck reference here too, which is interesting.

    -The very next segment is Pete Axthelm's gambling segment. This is before the first commercial and after the QB updates. Do the math...people need to get those calls into their bookies, and they need key info. One, what QB's are playing, and two, what picks does the expert like? FOX & CBS don't even employ men like Axthelm or Jimmy the Greek anymore. Now we get Jimmy Kimmel or Fran Caliendo or Rob Riggle doing bad comedy with the picks.

    NFL gambling used to be a manly activity done by men. Now every 19-year old with a debit card puts in faggoty 6 team parlays with offshore websites and thinks they're a gambler. Back in the day, you laid the heavy lumber on one play, lost, then chased at 4 o'clock, lost again, and chased on Monday. And then you paid up on Wednesday, meeting your guy in an OTB or on a street corner or in a hole in the wall bar. Like a man.

    Anyway, what was interesting here, was Axthelm picked Miami +3 1/2 over the Bears on Monday Night Football. Of course, that ended up being a historical game, as Miami upset the Bears outright and handed Chicago their only loss that season.

    -Next up is Bob Costas with the Jets Ken O'Brien & Al Toon in studio. Mark Gastineau was supposed to be there, but he was "stuck in traffic". In reality He was probably stuck in his hotel room with a couple of strippers doing blow. There was probably nobody watching this, because everybody was calling their bookie. Only 20 minutes to kickoff. I remember when I was a kid, our big italian family would gather on Sundays, and this was the time of day my old man and all of my uncles would be lined up at the phone in the kitchen.

    -Next is a segment with LARRY KING. Yes, that Larry King, who if you don't know is a huge sports guy and at this time was an inside information man. This is late in the season, so NFL & NCAA coaching rumors are swirling. There is lots of good forgotten stuff here, like Mouse Davis being linked to the St Louis Cardinals, and the controversy surrounding Lou Holtz "leaving yet another job" bolting Minnesota for Notre Dame.

    -Next, Ahmad Rashad does a segment on NFL RB's & the Giants diminutive runner Joe Morris. They talk a bit about the Joe Morris vs George Adams battle for playing time.

    -Back to Pete Axthelm for last minute advice. Costas receives word that Danielson won't play, so it's Kosar for the Browns. RUN TO THE PHONE! They talk about Falcons vs Raiders, with the leagues two leading rushers in the league squaring off, Marcus Allen & Gerald Riggs. Riggs lead by 12 yards.

    -We head to the open of the big game of the day, Browns @ Giants. Marv Albert & Bob Griese on the call. These guys still aren't sure who the starting QB is, showing how slow information moved in those days. Bob Griese's keys to the game, and i'm not making this up:

    Browns: Throw the ball
    Giants: Run the ball




  • Hasselbeck
    Jus' bout dat action boss
    • Feb 2009
    • 6175

    #2
    His picks:

    Vikings +7 over Eagles -- Vikings win 28-23
    Bengals -8 over Oilers -- Bengals win 45-27
    Packers -6.5 over Bucs -- Packers win 21-0
    Broncos +1.5 over Steelers -- Broncos win 31-23
    Dolphins +3.5 over Bears -- Dolphins win 38-24

    Originally posted by ram29jackson
    I already said months ago that Seattle wasn't winning any SB

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    • Warner2BruceTD
      2011 Poster Of The Year
      • Mar 2009
      • 26142

      #3
      The shocking thing about Axthelm, who was an ace handicapper in both football & horse racing, is how young he was. He looks like he's in his 60's in that video, but he's only 41. That's what hard gambling & hard drinking do to you. He died of liver failure at 47 years old while part of ESPN NFL Primetime.

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      • Warner2BruceTD
        2011 Poster Of The Year
        • Mar 2009
        • 26142

        #4
        Forgot to mention another fun soundbite.

        Larry King said the rookie of the year talk for William Perry was overblown. "The Perry refrigerator thing is getting overblown. He's a nice guy, he's nowhere near rookie of the year. In fact he's an ordinary defensive player."

        Welp, he was right.

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        • KINGOFOOTBALL
          Junior Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 10343

          #5
          Kinda skimming through at the moment...
          1. I love the honesty and lack of cliches from Toon and Obrien. You tell a guy now his progress was retarded and a fight might break out.
          2. Is it worrisome or funny that Al Toons glasses.....are the same glasses players think are stylish now ?
          3. WTF is Larry King doing on ?

          NFL on Fox was awesome , for awhile it was a nice contrast to the slow old man approach of the above pregame show , and it was great to watch..it really was. I like Bradshaw as a guy. But fuck me if that loud boisterous style of pregame hasnt merged with the twitch ADD generational needs into a cluster fuck of pregame shows. Other than really pretty fat girls I cant think of anything I try and want to love so hard...but just end up grossed out by.
          Best reason to have a license.

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          • godspeed
            Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 1316

            #6
            CBS NFL Today had Miss America.

            I haven't watched any nfl pre game shows or highlight shows after games in probably 15+ or so years.

            I do watch College Gameday on the regular.

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            • BigBucs
              Unpretentious
              • May 2009
              • 12758

              #7
              Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
              The shocking thing about Axthelm, who was an ace handicapper in both football & horse racing, is how young he was. He looks like he's in his 60's in that video, but he's only 41. That's what hard gambling & hard drinking do to you. He died of liver failure at 47 years old while part of ESPN NFL Primetime.
              That mfer looks like he has been through some things. How the hell you manage to look as old as he did at 41




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              • dell71
                Enter Sandman
                • Mar 2009
                • 23919

                #8
                Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                The shocking thing about Axthelm, who was an ace handicapper in both football & horse racing, is how young he was. He looks like he's in his 60's in that video, but he's only 41. That's what hard gambling & hard drinking do to you. He died of liver failure at 47 years old while part of ESPN NFL Primetime.
                Thanks for this bit of info. I used to flip back & forth to both CBS & NBC's pre-game shows. Without ever checking, I'd always assumed Axthelm was at least 65. Wow.

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                • Houston
                  Back home
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 21231

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                  It's long
                  Relatively short by today's standards.

                  Doesn't NFL Network start their pre-game show 4 or 5 hours before the games start?


                  They all seem useless anyway considering we get constant updates throughout the week.

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                  • Warner2BruceTD
                    2011 Poster Of The Year
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 26142

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Houston
                    Relatively short by today's standards.

                    Doesn't NFL Network start their pre-game show 4 or 5 hours before the games start?


                    They all seem useless anyway considering we get constant updates throughout the week.
                    Yeah, it's interesting that we are armed with more information than ever, yet these shows are getting longer & longer.

                    Back then we had almost no information until Sunday at 12:30, and they crammed it all into 30 minutes.

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