Trent Richardson to Colts

[ram29jackson]

I thought you guys were football heads/fans who understood stuff. Apparently you are all overly critical dumb asses.

Trents not that good? its no big deal ? Look who's been blocking for him you idiots ! He has blockers now ! figure it the fuck out ! he was keyed on by other teams because he was the only offense they had ! he couldn't run anywhere without someone in his face every fucking down !


and Madden ratings don't lie, he's good LOL

[ram29jackson]

that's right Jim, I'm leaving Cleveland

[Dop_Da_Don]

I thought you guys were football heads/fans who understood stuff. Apparently you are all overly critical dumb asses.

Trents not that good? its no big deal ? Look who's been blocking for him you idiots ! He has blockers now ! figure it the fuck out ! he was keyed on by other teams because he was the only offense they had ! he couldn't run anywhere without someone in his face every fucking down !


and Madden ratings don't lie, he's good LOL

You're right. Trent is a young star I cant believe people thinks he's a bad runningback at all .. Reading some peoples post makes me think

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I thought you guys were football heads/fans who understood stuff. Apparently you are all overly critical dumb asses.

Trents not that good? its no big deal ? Look who's been blocking for him you idiots ! He has blockers now ! figure it the fuck out ! he was keyed on by other teams because he was the only offense they had ! he couldn't run anywhere without someone in his face every fucking down !


and Madden ratings don't lie, he's good LOL

Joe Thomas, Alex Mack, and Mitchell Schwartz are all pretty damn good offensive linemen.

They could use a little help on the inside, but the Colts don't have three lineman as good as Thomas, Mack, and Schwartz.

[SuperKevin]

I thought you guys were football heads/fans who understood stuff. Apparently you are all overly critical dumb asses.

Trents not that good? its no big deal ? Look who's been blocking for him you idiots ! He has blockers now ! figure it the fuck out ! he was keyed on by other teams because he was the only offense they had ! he couldn't run anywhere without someone in his face every fucking down !


and Madden ratings don't lie, he's good LOL

Posts like this are why you can't have any nice things here

[ram29jackson]

Posts like this are why you can't have any nice things here

no, it means you have no sense of humor and no reading comprehension skills either

[ram29jackson]

Joe Thomas, Alex Mack, and Mitchell Schwartz are all pretty damn good offensive linemen.

They could use a little help on the inside, but the Colts don't have three lineman as good as Thomas, Mack, and Schwartz.

no, maybe,..but the team as whole is better than the Browns and Trent cant do worse on his own than he already has I would believe

[Maynard]

Trents not that good? its no big deal ? Look who's been blocking for him you idiots ! He has blockers now ! figure it the fuck out ! he was keyed on by other teams because he was the only offense they had ! he couldn't run anywhere without someone in his face every fucking down !

Rams shows his ignorance - the colts offensive line sucks. its their major weakness on offense. and the browns O-Line is great. if it wasnt for the THIRD STRINGER AT RG the line would be excellent. The pressure weeden is feeling is more a product of blocking schemes and him holding the ball to long.

I thought you guys were football heads/fans who understood stuff. Apparently you are all overly critical dumb asses.

you were saying?

[ram29jackson]

Rams shows his ignorance - the colts offensive line sucks. its their major weakness on offense. and the browns O-Line is great. if it wasnt for the THIRD STRINGER AT RG the line would be excellent. The pressure weeden is feeling is more a product of blocking schemes and him holding the ball to long.



you were saying?

you've been a Cleveland fan for years...who's ignorant ? no, its not ignorance in any way,shape or form . The Colts will win more games, therefore the Colts have a better line. Thats the way life works honey

[Aso]

you've been a Cleveland fan for years...who's ignorant ? no, its not ignorance in any way,shape or form . The Colts will win more games, therefore the Colts have a better line. Thats the way life works honey

What in the fuck?

[ram29jackson]

wow, a Raiders and a Browns fan are confused, what a surprise.

look, saying Clevehas a better line is pointless when you don't win any games. The fact is in football its your offensive and defensive lines that are responsible for a football teams success even if you have decent WRs, QBs,CBs etc. But the better the glamour positions are the less work or at least the shorter intervals of time per play work the Lines have to do, the better. The Colts are obviously a better team throughout and it can only help Trent.

The Saints had a great linebacking core in their history at one point and quess what ? it didn't matter and no body cared because the whole team still sucked and never got anywhere.

the Browns can have all the draft picks they want but until the coaches and front office are worth a damn and motivate the players . They aint gonna do crap any year soon

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

I think both teams lose. If Trent has good hands the Colts may end up with a pretty good weapon. But they still lose because no back is worth a no1 in this league unless you're on the cusp of serious SB contention.
Somehow the Browns will fuck up this stockpile by trading for LeBron James' Galaxy Note 2.

Either way I've been wanting to watch Trent since he was drafted but I'm not crazy enough to throw away Sunday ticket money watching the Browns. Now I can tune into a Colts game and get some value... And that's just the way life works Honey.

[ram29jackson]

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[Maynard]

Mike seems to forget that he was fired

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2013/09/mike_holmgren_blasts_cleveland.html

Mike Holmgren blasts Cleveland Browns' trade of Trent Richardson, saying team would have had to 'fire me' if he was coach

BEREA, Ohio -- Former Browns President Mike Holmgren, who traded up a notch to No. 3 to draft Trent Richardson last year, ripped the Browns for trading Richardson to the Colts for a first-round pick in 2014, saying he'd quit as a head coach if a team traded away his best offensive player and that it was a knee-jerk reaction.

"I struggled with it,'' Holmgren said today on Sports Radio 950 KJR in Seattle with host Dave "Softy'' Mahler. "Philosophically, if I am the coach and someone came in anywhere and did that, I'd say 'OK, fire me, or I'm going to quit. Or we're going to both go into the owner and talk about this and the we'll see who's still standing.' ''

Holmgren, who was let go by new owner Jimmy Haslam and CEO Joe Banner at the end of last season, posed the question that many Browns fans are thinking.

"How do you make your team better by trading your best player?'' he said. "He's the best offensive player. He's a valuable, valuable guy.''

He said he watched the press conference conducted Wednesday by Banner and coach Rob Chudzinski and "clearly the coach is OK with this because they sat at the news conference together. I personally would not be OK with it. It was my best offensive player, a young guy. Not an eight-year vet. He's a young guy.''

He said if the GM told him in the owner's office he was making the trade, "I'd shake hands and walk. I would. Because if I disagreed with it vehemently, and I couldn't buy in, I mean, I'm not saying I'm right, I'm saying that's what I would do, because you have to be true to yourself in this business.''

Holmgren traded a fourth-, fifth- and seventh-round pick in the 2012 draft to Minnesota to move up a spot to draft Richardson at No. 3. Richardson rushed for 950 yards and 11 TDs last year, but averaged only 3.6 yards per carry, in part because he had broken ribs.

He said Browns players must feel like the front office is giving up on the season.

"You can't tell me some of those players aren't asking some of the questions you and I are asking,'' he said to Mahler. "They were friends with (Richardson). It's too wild. This sort of thing doesn't happen, and it happened, so asking questions about it would be natural.''

The current regime would not have drafted Richardson at No. 4 let alone trading three picks to move up to get him, league sources told Cleveland.com. What's more, they are not sold on Holmgren's pick of Brandon Weeden at No. 22, and are watching No. 37 Mitchell Schwartz, the right tackle, very closely. Banner and General Manager Mike Lombardi also would not have spent a second-round pick in 2013 on Josh Gordon in the supplemental draft.

The general feeling, the sources said, is that Holmgren and former GM Tom Heckert botched the top picks, and now the new group is paying the price.

"To me, they're putting all their eggs for next season,'' said Holmgren. "They started off 0-2, they couldn't score any points, I think it was a little bit of a knee-jerk reaction. There's a little bit of a 'what's going on?' I don't know this for sure but I can sense it.

"Indianapolis is probably going to have a pretty good year, so that pick is probably going to be 23, 24, right in there. And to package something (to move up in the draft), we couldn't package our 4 and our 7 for (Robert Griffin III) last year and we had more ammunition (Holmgren offered the No. 4 and No. 22 as well, but the Redskins offered three first-rounders)."

Holmgren said his daughter called him and told him about the trade.

"I thought she was kidding around,'' he said. "I didn't believe it. I went on my computer and saw it. I had a lot of emotions, because I really liked the young man and I really think he's an outstanding football player. It was something that we needed, and he had a really fine first year and he played through pain and injury, so I was startled by that. ''

He added, "on the surface, I tried to make sense of it. I wanted to know what in the world? It appears after seeing the press conference, they're not coming out and saying it, but they're preparing for next year's draft. I listened to the coach and he says we want to be competitive. Who's going to be the running back? They don't even know who's going to be the running back this week.''

How much better does this make the Colts?

"Oh boy, indoor and on turf?'' said Holmgren.

He re-iterated that he offered Colts GM Ryan Grigson his entire 2012 draft to move up to No. 1 to take Andrew Luck.

"I talked to him last year (at the owner's meetings) before we made the trade,'' he said. "I said, 'I'll give you all of our draft picks for the No. 1 pick and I'll take Luck. I'll give the whole draft to you.

"I said, 'Ryan let's do the deal, right now, right here.' He said, 'We're taking Luck.' We were by the pool, I might've even had a lemonade in my hand. He didn't take me seriously, because I was ready to pull the trigger. They were going to take him, and they should've taken him. They did the right thing, but he said if some craziness would've happened, they would've taken Trent Richardson. And now a year later, they get both of them. If you asked him last year, 'Would you trade your 24th pick in the first round for Trent Richardson,' you would do that easily.''

He said he doesn't know Chudzinski personally, but "I know people that know him. They say he's a great coach, a good guy and has been in the league long enough. You're right though, it's his first head coaching job, but boy-oh-boy, there would be a conversation.''

And over the next several years, you can bet there will be plenty.

[MmmmBeeeeer]

I think that Richardson has many more opportunities to excel in Indy rather than Cleveland. Our O-line is not better but you probably won't see defenses stacking the box against Luck/Richardson like they supposedly did against Weeden/Richardson.

I always liked Bill Polian's strategy of getting talent through the draft and not trades, but I am also very interested to see how fast Grigson can build up the Colts through trades.

It sucks to be a Browns fan and have to deal with the endless mediocrity. I feel for you Maynard.