Snyder vs. Shanahan

[Argath]

The Redskins are 2-5 in games decided by 8 points or less and they are largely returning the same starters while also having a key player like Orakpo back. So even if he was just referring to their 3 wins thats still not the case for the other 31 teams.

Rushing RG3 back even though he doesn't look nearly like the same QB I think is a bigger blame than the rest of the roster. How many wins do you think they lost due to RG3's dropoff in play?

You think the other 31 teams would go from 10 wins to 3 wins if they lost 18 million in cap? Thats foolish. They basically have the same guys + Orakpo. But of course you're gonna have 7 less wins in that scenario....

So losing 18 million in cap automatically gives you a 3 win season regardless of team or organization? If you think that then you're still dumb. Either way both statements are dumb.

And my bad for thinking "this situation" meant the Snyder vs Shanahan thing instead of the Redskins 3 win season....

It's pretty apparent you haven't seen a single Redskin game this year. I'm also convinced you just started watching the NFL this year. This is gonna be a long one boys so get ready.


You don't think that maybe, just MAYBE, the 10 win season (where you know, 7 came on a huge winning streak against mostly mediocre-terrible teams *not including the ravens OT win* to end the season) wasn't actually a fluke? You do realize that in that 7 game win streak, only 2 of those teams even finished ABOVE .500? You act like this team is coming off of a god damn Super Bowl win.

Yes RG3 has not lived up to the hype this year. He's having a sophomore slump. Yes that hurts the team. However, if you actually fucking watch a god damn game you would realize that the Redskins special teams and defense are much more to blame than the sub-par play of RG3. It's hard to get an offense going when you're down 21-0 halfway through the first quarter thanks to a kick/punt return TD and several long TDs given up by the defense.

They basically have the same guys + Orakpo

I need to point out how fucking dumb this statement is. So. Fucking. Dumb. It honestly proves to me you have no clue what you're even talking about here so why are you even in this thread?

Oh and I forgot Orakpo was the entire defense. Next game, we'll throw him at safety and I'm sure we won't give up a single completion the entire game.


Losing that $18 million meant we can't get better while everyone else in the league did. How can you not get this? I honestly cannot understand how losing $18 million in your salary cap is not a disadvantage?

And where did anyone say losing $18 million automatically gives you a 3 win season? That is a dumb fucking statement and the funny part is, it's one that you made up. Pretty sure the only thing people have said, or atleast I have said (as I'm not really willing to go back and read the thread at this point), about it is that it's played a major factor in how the season has turned out so far. As stated previously, other teams got better, redskins lost key personnel on defense and special teams and actually became worse. This really isn't that hard of a concept to grasp.

I'm still waiting for the report from you on which current playoff bound teams are dealing with these types of salary cap issues the Redskins are dealing with.

[Aso]

You're responding while admitting you haven't read other posts and at this point to me it seems like we're arguing different points. Losing 18 million puts you at a disadvantage? Well golly gee I didn't think it would.

[Argath]

You're responding while admitting you haven't read other posts and at this point to me it seems like we're arguing different points. Losing 18 million puts you at a disadvantage? Well golly gee I didn't think it would.

The fact remains it's obvious you don't know dick about the skins, or most of the NFL for that matter.

Rushing RG3 back is the reason the team is sitting at 3-10 but having a bottom 3 ranked defense isn't? Lol


Teams can be better than 3 wins with a shitty cap, look at the raiders, they have 4 wins.

/aso

[x0xHumblex0x]

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[MVPete]

Everyone forgets the skins are putting together teams with $18 million less than everyone else in the league. That's a pretty big chunk of the salary cap they can't use. I say give shanahan one more year and see what he can do with a full team for once, including (hopefully) a healthy RGIII.

Shanahan just a scape goat. Should've never let Danny Smith go though Skins special teams is one of the worst in the league since he left.

* $18 mill less in cap.......fucking hurt the team roster. there is NO debate for this.
any other team with playoff/winning records would be in same situation.

* i dont believe all the media hype, as much as i believe in the actual Fans in the DC area.
my cousin who lives in Woodbridge, VA. and says it like: Redskin fans love our Redskins......its that simple.
screw the media and the hype.

* i give the Shanny's and Hasslett one more year.......under new circumstances with Cap space, injuries and cuts.

The fact remains it's obvious you don't know dick about the skins, or most of the NFL for that matter.

Rushing RG3 back is the reason the team is sitting at 3-10 but having a bottom 3 ranked defense isn't? Lol


Teams can be better than 3 wins with a shitty cap, look at the raiders, they have 4 wins.

/aso

Daniel Snyder teams haven't done a fucking thing in his 14 years, I would argue that if you give the skins an extra 50 million to spend they still don't do anything.

[Aso]

The fact remains it's obvious you don't know dick about the skins, or most of the NFL for that matter.

Rushing RG3 back is the reason the team is sitting at 3-10 but having a bottom 3 ranked defense isn't? Lol


Teams can be better than 3 wins with a shitty cap, look at the raiders, they have 4 wins.

/aso

You're still lost Argath and we're still arguing different points. It all comes down to this statement:

* $18 mill less in cap.......fucking hurt the team roster. there is NO debate for this.
any other team with playoff/winning records would be in same situation.

So we've all agreed Humble meant the skins 3 win season by "situation".

Now he says "any other team with playoff/winning records would be in same situation."

So any playoff/winning record team would be having a 3 win season and be in line for a top 5 pick if they lost 18 million in cap? Thats what it comes down to and apparently you agree with that statement.

[x0xHumblex0x]

thats $18mil for 2 years.....

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[Aso]

thats $18mil for 2 years.....

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Half of this thread has been restating whats already been said so great job on keeping the trend going.

[Guest]

The fact remains it's obvious you don't know dick about the skins, or most of the NFL for that matter.

Rushing RG3 back is the reason the team is sitting at 3-10 but having a bottom 3 ranked defense isn't? Lol


Teams can be better than 3 wins with a shitty cap, look at the raiders, they have 4 wins.

/aso

I honestly don't give the defense a bad grade, despite being statistically one of the worst. Especially early in the season, when the Redskins couldn't produce any offense for the first three quarters, our defense held together despite being on the field for ridiculously long times.

Yes, our secondary sucks, plain and simple. Our linebacker corps, even with an aging Fletcher, is still one of the better units in the league. Cofield may be one of the best nose tackles right now, and the rest of the defensive line is solid- lots of role players but they do well in their role.

If Shanahan somehow stays on, I think he is forced to cut ties with Haslett. I think that would be a mistake, because the defense has not really mailed it in this season. Statistically, it's very easy to make that claim. Considering some of the games they had to play in with a putrid offense, is the performance really that bad?

Our special teams unit is historically bad. Solid punter, good kicker, but our coverage units are awful and we can't return squat.