My thoughts on the Michael Sam Kiss

[kmanharris]

I was shocked they showed it on TV. I have no problem with homosexuals but haven't seen it shown on live tv before so it kinda threw me off. That said, I realized how silly it was that I WAS shocked by it because I shouldn't be. I'm not shocked/surprised/angry when a male/female kiss and I shouldn't be when a male/male or female/female do it. It literally has no bearing on me and if two people are in love, so be it. To be honest, I was kind of embarrassed at my own personal reaction.

[bucky]

I personally feel society can handle it and there was nothing wrong.

The % of society that can handle it is growing, but there is still a significant % that can't. As far as nothing wrong, that's your belief. There are others that don't share that belief. Wright/wrong, moral/immoral, ethical/unethical, that's all a matter of opinion. What should not be up for debate is whether people have the right to. For those that want to say it's definitely wrong (rams), they should have to factually prove it's wrong. If they can't, then individuals should have the right to choose w/o being oppressed. In that sense, I would agree with your "nothing wrong".

Please note, in the actual thread my opinions were deemed not relevant to the conversation and I have been removed. However I felt it necessary to share my opinion with the members of this forum.

Why was this post deemed not relevant to the other thread? To me your post seems very relevant to the other thread.

[bucky]

My bad. My main point is it should be shown regardless of whether or not society can handle it because there's nothing wrong going on.

I personally feel society can handle it though and people are getting way too upset over something that shouldn't even be an issue. It wasn't a traumatic event.

I think media is over-reacting to the entire issue, people are over-reacting to the kiss, and also a over-reaction to those who found it uncomfortable. Seems like there is over-reaction and intolerance flying in every direction surrounding this.

[Slateman]

My thoughts are that I think it's embarrassing that we have thoughts on two people kissing.

[mgoblue2290]

The % of society that can handle it is growing, but there is still a significant % that can't. As far as nothing wrong, that's your belief. There are others that don't share that belief. Wright/wrong, moral/immoral, ethical/unethical, that's all a matter of opinion. What should not be up for debate is whether people have the right to. For those that want to say it's definitely wrong (rams), they should have to factually prove it's wrong. If they can't, then individuals should have the right to choose w/o being oppressed. In that sense, I would agree with your "nothing wrong".



Why was this post deemed not relevant to the other thread? To me your post seems very relevant to the other thread.

It got deleted. There was a post in this thread saying that but that also got deleted.

[Houston]

Anyone who thinks society can't handle this clearly isn't watching Game of Thrones and therefore has an invalid opinion.

[Hasselbeck]

Society can't handle this because watching people be gay turns other people gay.

/buckyrams

[bucky]

Society can't handle this because watching people be gay turns other people gay.

/buckyrams

Go find where I said this?

[Youk]

Go find where I said this?

You tiptoed around saying it, but you insinuated it.

[bucky]

You tiptoed around saying it, but you insinuated it.

No I didn't. You read into it. Something that wasn't there.

[Youk]

No I didn't. You read into it. Something that wasn't there.

Oh, right, you didn't, but you agree that being gay is becoming more mainstream, and that the kids will experiment with it because it is.

[bucky]

Oh, right, you didn't, but you agree that being gay is becoming more mainstream, and that the kids will experiment with it because it is.

"being gay is becoming more mainstream"? Homosexuality is becoming more mainstream. People are being more open about it. You see it more. Are you denying this? And I do think the more mainstream homosexuality becomes the more influence it will have. No where in there does it say it will turn people gay. And I don't believe it's unreasonable to think kids will be more likely to experiment. There's no moral or value judgement there.

Somehow, you turn this into "one gay kiss will turn kids gay".

[Youk]

No where in there does it say it will turn people gay. And I don't believe it's unreasonable to think kids will be more likely to experiment.

So they will experiment with guys but still be straight?

[bucky]

So they will experiment with guys but still be straight?

Sure. They can be straight, experimenting. They can be bi. They can be gay. I really believe many people are born gay or straight. I don't think it's absurd to think that some people just experiment.

Why, do you think you have to be gay to sexually experiment? You think all college women who experiment are just lesbians? Life isn't this black and white.

[Youk]

Sure. They can be straight, experimenting. They can be bi. They can be gay. I really believe many people are born gay or straight. I don't think it's absurd to think that some people just experiment.

Why, do you think you have to be gay to sexually experiment? You think all college women who experiment are just lesbians? Life isn't this black and white.

Oh, so this whole time you believe that an increased openness to homosexuality will make all kids want to try to bang everyone, not just guys experimenting with guys.

This is really stretching ridiculously now.