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  • ThomasTomasz
    • Nov 2024

    Andre Johnson wants out of Houston?

    Andre Johnson hears "Father Time" ticking and he once again is looking up at a big mountain to climb in Houston and doesn't know if he feels like taking on another rebuilding project.

    Understandable, considering Bill O'Brien is the fourth head coach of the Texans since Johnson arrived 11 years ago.

    If he plays for Houston this year, the eldest statesman of the team will probably be at the receiving end of his fourth and most likely fifth different quarterback in three seasons. Over the past two years the soon-to-be 33-year-old receiver had Matt Schaub, T.J. Yates and Case Keenum throwing to him and still managed 233 receptions and nine touchdowns to say nothing of the 157 receptions that went for first downs and 24 for more than 25 yards.

    Johnson signed a big contract a few years ago and doesn't really have much leverage if he really wants out of Houston but it is possible if a number of things come together. Andre Johnson still has three years left on his deal for a grand total of $34.5 million, which is a positive and a negative at the same time.

    Let's look at the questions that have come up since Andre Johnson's comments Tuesday:

    Is there a situation recently this reminds you of? What would a compensation package look like for Houston? I think the Texans would go back and look at what the Kansas City Chiefs got in the Tony Gonzalez trade to Atlanta. The Chiefs got a second-round pick for a 33-year old tight end that in the two seasons leading up to the trade had 195 receptions, 15 touchdowns, 126 first downs and 10 receptions over 25 yards. If Johnson could ever duplicate what Gonzalez did in Atlanta (five years, 428 receptions, 37 touchdowns, 281 first downs) he would be worth every bit of compensation. If the Texans could get a second-round pick or a combination of a young player or two and a third- or fourth- round pick a deal would make sense.

    What are the possible landing spots? At this point in Johnson's career he doesn't want to go to another rebuild situation so I would eliminate teams like the Browns, Jaguars, Raiders and Titans even though all of the teams mentioned have plenty of salary cap space and a real need for a player like Johnson. Andre Johnson needs to go to a team with a solid quarterback situation and a strong contender for the postseason. Teams like New England, Carolina and Kansas City have to get strong consideration.

    Would he be willing to restructure his contract? None of the three teams mentioned for consideration have the kind of salary-cap space to take on Johnson's contract. Keep in mind every team in the league has to get their rookies signed, which will take its toll on remaining cap space. As of now the Patriots have $7.7 million, Carolina has $5.7 million and the Chiefs have $4.4 million. A trade for Johnson would be an immediate $11 million cap hit and only 10 teams in the NFL could incur that hit without an adjustment. Of those 11 teams, I don't believe Johnson wants to go to any of those teams or that they would have little interest in him. If Johnson really wants to move on he has to restructure and strongly consider a pay cut as well. Johnson has made more than $30 million in the past four years and has been a high-priced player for all 11 years of his career. A willingness to do a cap friendly deal that averages $7million to $8 million a year but has a first-year cap number closer to $4 million-$5 million could put him on a real playoff contender.

    How much gas is left in the tank? Wide receivers aren't like running backs as they can play at a high level well in to their 30s. Terrell Owens played four more years after he turned 33 and caught 277 passes and 39 touchdowns. Marvin Harrison played three more years had 175 receptions and 18 touchdowns. Art Monk is a Hall of Fame receiver who I signed well past his 33rd birthday and from 33 to the end he caught 210 passes and 16 touchdowns. Andre Johnson with a top-flight quarterback should project to 200-plus reception over the next three seasons at a minimum considering the great care he takes of himself and what he has done with less than elite quarterbacks.

    What's the timetable? The Texans really shouldn't move Johnson until they get to June 1 so they can split up the dead money issue facing them. Houston has $12.5 million of cap space and could absorb the whole $11 million cap hit but is better off taking a $4 million hit this year and a $7 million hit next year.

    What if you can't get a second-round pick? If New England was involved I would want a wide receiver like Aaron Dobson and a third-round pick. If Carolina was the team then I would want a linebacker like A.J. Klein and a third-round pick. If Kansas City showed some interest it would be Donnie Avery and a third. Anything less than a third would warrant two players as well.

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/...-andre-johnson
  • buckeye
    Noob
    • Dec 2013
    • 0

    #2
    Sign us up! Go Browns

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    • Point Blank
      Needs a hobby
      • Oct 2008
      • 14184

      #3
      Philly, Carolina, or KC sounds about right.

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      • Goober
        Needs a hobby
        • Feb 2009
        • 12271

        #4
        Originally posted by buckeye
        Sign us up! Go Browns

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        I think his motivation is to play for a winner. So no, I don't think Cleveland is a destination he has in mind.

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        • NAHSTE
          Probably owns the site
          • Feb 2009
          • 22233

          #5
          Hoping he stays in Houston but I completely understand his position.

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          • krulmichael
            STRAAAAANGE MUSIC!
            • Feb 2009
            • 10721

            #6
            Matt Millen says he should goto the Lions. Must. Acquire. More. Receivers.

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            • Argath
              $2 whore
              • Apr 2009
              • 9241

              #7
              Stay out of the NFC East. Thanks.

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              • Pala
                Marcus Morris Apologist
                • May 2014
                • 33

                #8
                Have a feeling he'll stay in Houston this season, get "injured" and become a FA after the season. Why would he not want to pick up a $8M check when it's inevitably going to be substantially reduced at his next stop? He'll get his chance to chase a ring after he chases the money for one more year. He'll have to deal with Savage for 6-8 games or so, though.

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                • Aso
                  The Serious House
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 11137

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Pala
                  Have a feeling he'll stay in Houston this season, get "injured" and become a FA after the season. Why would he not want to pick up a $8M check when it's inevitably going to be substantially reduced at his next stop? He'll get his chance to chase a ring after he chases the money for one more year. He'll have to deal with Savage for 6-8 games or so, though.
                  Sounds accurate. His base salary shoots up from 6.5M this season to 10.5M in 2015 as well. I think once the 2014 season is over the feeling between Houston and Johnson will become mutual.

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                  • 1ke
                    D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 6641

                    #10
                    Andre to KC
                    Eric Berry to Chicago
                    Chicago gives up a 1st rounder to Houston.

                    Boom. I'm the best GM ever!

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                    • Hasselbeck
                      Jus' bout dat action boss
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 6175

                      #11
                      You mean a 33-year old WR who is a fringe HOF'er doesn't want to play with TOM SAVAGE?
                      Originally posted by ram29jackson
                      I already said months ago that Seattle wasn't winning any SB

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                      • Pitty
                        Death, Taxes, Jeff Capel
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 7541

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Hasselbeck
                        You mean a 33-year old WR who is a fringe HOF'er doesn't want to play with TOM SAVAGE?
                        Savage #best.

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                        • NAHSTE
                          Probably owns the site
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 22233

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Hasselbeck
                          You mean a 33-year old WR who is a fringe HOF'er doesn't want to play with TOM SAVAGE?
                          It's bad enough he was imprisoned by Carr/Schaub his whole career.

                          Ken Dorsey might be the best QB he's ever played with

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                          • ThomasTomasz
                            • Nov 2024

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Aso
                            Sounds accurate. His base salary shoots up from 6.5M this season to 10.5M in 2015 as well. I think once the 2014 season is over the feeling between Houston and Johnson will become mutual.
                            I think a trade before the deadline of a mid-round pick could happen. Houston should at least recoup something of value if they are going to part ways with him in the off-season. It also gives Johnson a decent shot at an extension with the new team that is favorable to him.

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