Orlando Pace to the bears

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Very misleading stat considering the rest of the Rams OL was a joke.

How is that a misleading stat...he still had a good year, regardless of the other 4 buffoons on the Rams OL.

[Hasselbeck]

How is that a misleading stat...he still had a good year, regardless of the other 4 buffoons on the Rams OL.

Because of course he won't give up many sacks when the other 4 guys are being used as a turnstile.

[Blick]

Because the Rams only let him go not even a month ago. Plus he had been fielding offers from quite a few teams. It's not like there was no intrest in him. I'm sure salary considerations and concerns about his knee weighed into it as well. But it doesn't mean he's still not a very good LT.

Yeah, if he can stay healthy he's alright, but that's a big IF considering his age and recent history.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

If Pace is still a good player, then why was he still around in free agency when LT is a really valuable position?

Same reason a still very good Tra Thomas was only getting a few offers...he's old, and its not certain how much longer he has left in him, and he wanted a sizable deal (if $5M/yr is still sizable).

They still played well last year...but there are questions as to how much is really left.

I'd guess that barring injury, guys like Pace and Thomas will be above average tackles for the Bears and Jaguars at worst...when you are as talented as these guys, only injuries beyond recognition can keep them from being less then serviceable. Offensive linemen can last a long time in the league if the talent is there. Look at guys like Bruce Matthews and Kevin Mawae or even tackles like Wayne Gandy and Willie Anderson. You can still play even after your prime in the NFL as OL.

[FirstTimer]

Yeah, if he can stay healthy he's alright, but that's a big IF considering his age and recent history.

He missed 2 games last year and plyed on a bad knee. I would assume he is using this offseason to heal up.

[Kuzzy Powers]

Haters gonna hate... ballers gonna ball. Orlando Pace is a baller. Keep hating..

[Blick]

Same reason a still very good Tra Thomas was only getting a few offers...he's old, and its not certain how much longer he has left in him, and he wanted a sizable deal (if $5M/yr is still sizable).

They still played well last year...but there are questions as to how much is really left.

I'd guess that barring injury, guys like Pace and Thomas will be above average tackles for the Bears and Jaguars at worst...when you are as talented as these guys, only injuries beyond recognition can keep them from being less then serviceable. Offensive linemen can last a long time in the league if the talent is there. Look at guys like Bruce Matthews and Kevin Mawae or even tackles like Wayne Gandy and Willie Anderson. You can still play even after your prime in the NFL as OL.

I know. The Chiefs got some awesome years out of Willie Roaf before he retired. I don't remember Roaf having injury problems like Pace has had recently, though.

I also agree with Hass' point about his stats last year being misleading.

[FirstTimer]

Roaf only played in 7 games for New Orleans the year before KC got him.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I think Bob Whitfield is still floating around the NFL. Old bastard is still usable to somebody.

Maybe we can dig up Richmond Webb, John Fina, Big Cat Searcy, and Jeff Christy to take some meaningful snaps.

[Blick]

Roaf only played in 7 games for New Orleans the year before KC got him.

He missed a lot less time than Pace has recently and he was a year younger.

[FirstTimer]

He missed a lot less time than Pace has recently and he was a year younger.

OH NOEZ! A WHOLE YEAR!! And about 10-15 more games. Yawn.
You said Pace was "done". He's obviously not. Just admit you were wrong and move on.

[stevsta]

Pace i foresee still doing good I really didnt want the rams to cut him as he has been the most consistent linemen for about 10-11 years. Injurys happen of course but for the rams to release him b/c of salary issues made me dissapointed

Very good pick up for the bears

[Blick]

OH NOEZ! A WHOLE YEAR!! And about 10-15 more games. Yawn.
You said Pace was "done". He's obviously not. Just admit you were wrong and move on.

Pace missed 14 more games in the last 3 years than Roaf in his 3 years prior to going to KC. That's significant.

LOL at "just admit you were wrong". Because he stayed healthy while he signed his contract? I'll admit being wrong when we see what happens next year.

[FirstTimer]

You said he was "done". Last season and his production clearly shows he is not. You were wrong.

[Blick]

You said he was "done". Last season and his production clearly shows he is not. You were wrong.

I said he IS done...now...present tense. I didn't say he was done last year. We have to see if he stays healthy and plays well in the upcoming season before anyone can be wrong.