Buy or sell: Percy Harvin

[FirstTimer]

I didn't understand why it took so long for Turner to incorporate Olsen and Clark into the offense, or why it took so long for Turner to give Hester a shot at WR. Its not like the Bears WRs actually run pass patterns. They just run in a straight line and hope Grossman/Orton can get them the ball...it seems like the 'Turner system' was custom-made for someone like Hester.

As far as Olsen and Clark go, I agree. I have no idea and that's why I was screaming for his head last year and at time this year. Olsen was your best pass cather last year IMO and it seemed as though he'd have big game and Turner would use him well and then he'd go a week or two where he was seldom used. Some one it may have been defensive adjustments but it also seemed Turner went away from him.

As far as Hester I think the concern within the organization was that a move to WR would efect Hester's return game in a negative way. IMO it has, but when they chose not to resign Berrian they were forced to use Hester in the deep ball role and luckily they had Daniel Manning waiting in the wings. I still say Hester as starting WR is a mistake, but at this point you can't really turn back. To be honest I'm not so sure Turner wanted Hester as a WR. I don't think he was confident he could grasp the offense.

[Liquidrob]

Played in a pro-style offense, and has superior change of direction skills. I'd say he was pretty good at running routes when he came out. If you are saying because he played QB, he only played like 4 games at QB and about 15-20 at WR in his career.

yeah, because Harvin is a slug in the 'change of direction skills' catergory

[NAHSTE]

I can't remember if I was pro-Harvin, anti-Harvin, or somewhere in between. I just know bumping this thread was a great idea.

PH is definitely making teams regret not taking him. He's just as much a stud in the NFL as he was in college. I have enjoyed watching his clone, Russell Shepard, play some for us this fall, causing me to have a newfound appreciation for a player such as Harvin and what he brings to the table.

I love watching Vikings games now, partly because of this guy.

[ThunderHorse]

I AM A FUCKING IDIOT

Percy Harvin is a beast

(at least I didn't say I'd kill myself)

[Rayman]

Miles Austin.

Seriously, Stephen Jones has told his old man that he's had enough of the dickheads. Coaching staff backed him up on it.

None of them want any part of Percy Harvin.

Nice.

[NAHSTE]

Nice.

Hey, I found that for you. You were also dead wrong on Harvin in this thread, you called him a dickhead and said the Cowboys were smart to take him off their board.

Great call on Austin though, which is why I repped you.

[Rayman]

Hey, I found that for you. You were also dead wrong on Harvin in this thread, you called him a dickhead and said the Cowboys were smart to take him off their board.

Great call on Austin though, which is why I repped you.

:D Thanks for that

And you're right on Harvin, but I'm still glad we didn't draft him. I'll stand by the comments I made about his attitude. Otherwise, Dallas would not have put him in "the box".

He wouldn't get much playing time in Dallas anyway. For some reason, we don't play the young guys early unless it's a necessity.

[Spidey]

I didnt write it down in a public forum but will admit that I was very much opposed to Percy Harvin coming into the draft. I definitely recognized his skill. Never much doubt there for me. For me, like others, it was an attitude and risk of substance abuse thing.

Those things may still happen in the future but at this moment right now all I can say is I was wrong. Not only has neither of those been an issue, he has really impressed me with how tough he plays (an attribute I really didn't see in him). He's gonna be a good receiver in this league for a long time if he keeps his nose clean.

[Tailback U]

I'm buying. If you are low on this guy because of the stupid wonderlic or the fact that he tested positive for marijuana then you need to have your head examined. Dan Marino scored something like a 15 on the Wonderlic, Frank Gore something like a 6, and I'm sure a ton of other great football players fall in that range, as well.

Not to mention Calvin Johnson admitted to having smoked pot before as he was interviewing with teams before last years draft.

Harvin has speed, hands, and despite what everyone seems to think he is an exceptional route runner. His acceleration off the line of scrimmage is superb.

He's not a halfback, he will line up at the wideout spot and he will be good. Great? I don't know, but he will be good, IMO.

He does have durability issues but I think he will be fine in the pro's because he won't be carrying the ball as much as he did in college.

spot on yet again.