NFL Russell Wilson isn't "Black Enough," Seahawks Players Allegedly Say

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    King George
    • Jun 2012
    • 1109

    NFL Russell Wilson isn't "Black Enough," Seahawks Players Allegedly Say

    After Percy Harvin was traded to the Jets, the leaks began almost immediately. Harvin physically fought teammates. Harvin pulled himself out of games. Harvin ma


    After Percy Harvin was traded to the Jets, the leaks began almost immediately. Harvin physically fought teammates. Harvin pulled himself out of games. Harvin may have been about to “launch a mutiny” against Russell Wilson. Though (presumably) Wilson’s camp spread word through ESPN’s Chris Mortensen that Wilson wanted to keep Harvin aboard and help the troubled receiver through his “anger and trust” issues, it seemed, as someone watching from afar without inside access, that Harvin’s alleged issues with Wilson held the most efficacy in his ouster.
    Today, Bleacher Report’s Mike Freeman shed some light on issues that Harvin had with Wilson, and seemed to back Mike Florio’s assertion that the Seahawks feared the receiver would not be alone in a coalition against Wilson:
    Players said Harvin was an accelerant in a locker room that was quickly dividing between Wilson and anti-Wilson. … There is also an element of race that needs to be discussed. My feeling on this—and it’s backed up by several interviews with Seahawks players—is that some of the black players think Wilson isn’t black enough.
    This, again, was similar to the situation with McNabb [versus Terrell Owens]. And this, again, will be denied by Seattle people. But there is an element of this. This is an issue that extends outside of football, into African-American society—though it’s gotten better recently. Well-spoken blacks are seen by some other blacks as not completely black. Some of this is at play.

    Freeman notes that he doesn’t agree with some of the Seattle players’ sentiment, and cites a tweet from the NYDN’s Manish Mehta that Marshawn Lynch was irate and almost didn’t board the team bus as evidence that there were other teammates who liked Harvin.
    This discussion is a minefield that I’ll admit I’m hesitant to jump into, but I’m going to try to do it without inciting Internet mob backlash. On the surface, it seems crazy that we’re even talking about this now. The Seahawks are six games removed from a Super Bowl. Three weeks ago, it was a genuine debate as to whether Wilson would be the first overall pick if you were starting a team from scratch tomorrow. But success is so fleeting in the NFL and there have been some cracks in Seattle’s facade this year.

    This past August, SI’s Greg Bishop profiled Wilson’s entourage, all of whom are white guys. Wilson appears in too many commercials to count. There always seem to be cameras around for his community service work. Announcers always talk about his HARD WORK and devotion to THE GAME. Since he entered the league he’s demonstrated precociousness in the Derek Jeter art of speaking in a manner which will draw praise from the sports media, but convey nothing of discernible value.
    Freeman also notes that there’s frustration amongst some of Wilson’s teammates when he doesn’t take responsibility for errant passes, but that the same could also be said for Peyton Manning, who faces no such perceived threat of a mutiny. While Wilson was the quarterback of a Super Bowl team last year, however, he does not have nearly the same longevity as Manning.
    Aside from Wilson’s entourage, those things could all breed resentment amongst teammates regardless of race. The words not “black enough” are there with Freeman’s sources, and the connotation is that some of Wilson’s teammates perceive that the quarterback lacks sincerity. That he’s always a step ahead of the sappy old media, and manipulates their coverage accordingly. I’m not remotely qualified to diagnose the racial undercurrents of what is reportedly going on, but I can understand the idea of being bothered by the exposure to relentless, fluffy PR.
    Seahawks are in self destruct mode.

    The madden curse is real.
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  • BigBucs
    Unpretentious
    • May 2009
    • 12758

    #2
    Sad and ridiculous situation up there is this story has any credence.




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    • buckeye
      Noob
      • Dec 2013
      • 0

      #3
      Stupid as hell. If that's true then shame on em.

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      • ThunderHorse
        Grind.
        • Nov 2008
        • 2702

        #4
        Originally posted by BigBucs
        Sad and ridiculous situation up there is this story has any credence.
        It probably does have a little truth to it.

        The whole "Acting Black" thing is nothing new. There's a real disconnect there, because someone can't "Act Black" - You can't pretend to be black, you either are or you aren't. If this is true I'd be more interested to know whether or not it was Wilson's attitude and how he treats his fellow teammates, or if it's how he treats the black community now that he's in a position where he can actually do something constructive for it.

        I do not know how financially stable Wilson's life was while he grew up, or where exactly he grew up. I do find it a bit odd that he only has white friends, but it's not a big deal and I don't think it's a testament to his character, He probably just has more in common with those white guys than other people. The reason I find it a bit odd is, I grew up in the Midwest but lived my teens and all of my adult life in the deep south. I too am mixed like Wilson (I actually get a lot of jokes about how we look so much alike even though I'm better looking and a much more impressive physical specimen), but the experience is different down here. It's hard to make real friends with white people and Black people are a lot faster to accept you and assimilate you into their social group.

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        • j.hen
          Self Care
          • Oct 2008
          • 10058

          #5
          So all black people must act like a hood rat to be considered black by other blacks then? So fucking dumb.

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          • MmmmBeeeeer
            PTFO
            • Mar 2009
            • 6709

            #6
            He must not have instantly sided with Michael Brown

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            • j.hen
              Self Care
              • Oct 2008
              • 10058

              #7
              Why is it that having intelligence and being well-spoken is associated as a white person trait by a seemingly good percentage of the black community while arrogance and all general hood rat behavior is looked at positively and associated as a black person trait by the black community? We saw this same type of talk back when a black sports pundit called RG3 a "cornball nigga" or whatever it was. So if a black person isn't loud and obnoxious but instead is a great role model and someone a person of any race can look up to, now they're not "all-black"

              Really is a sad truth and something to be completely embarrassed and infuriated by.

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              • Senser81
                VSN Poster of the Year
                • Feb 2009
                • 12804

                #8

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                • Tailback U
                  No substitute 4 strength.
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 10282

                  #9

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                  • ThunderHorse
                    Grind.
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 2702

                    #10
                    Originally posted by j.hen
                    Why is it that having intelligence and being well-spoken is associated as a white person trait by a seemingly good percentage of the black community while arrogance and all general hood rat behavior is looked at positively and associated as a black person trait by the black community? We saw this same type of talk back when a black sports pundit called RG3 a "cornball nigga" or whatever it was. So if a black person isn't loud and obnoxious but instead is a great role model and someone a person of any race can look up to, now they're not "all-black"

                    Really is a sad truth and something to be completely embarrassed and infuriated by.
                    A lot of black people are poor. Poor people are generally ignorant.

                    The real question, imo, is why and how did this mindset/perspective become the primary focus of Black popular culture. Especially when we consider when this started there weren't many blacks that actually had the capital to sell and promote this form of entertainment, much less profit from it.
                    Last edited by ThunderHorse; 10-24-2014, 03:44 PM.

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                    • buckeye
                      Noob
                      • Dec 2013
                      • 0

                      #11
                      Originally posted by j.hen
                      Why is it that having intelligence and being well-spoken is associated as a white person trait by a seemingly good percentage of the black community while arrogance and all general hood rat behavior is looked at positively and associated as a black person trait by the black community? We saw this same type of talk back when a black sports pundit called RG3 a "cornball nigga" or whatever it was. So if a black person isn't loud and obnoxious but instead is a great role model and someone a person of any race can look up to, now they're not "all-black"

                      Really is a sad truth and something to be completely embarrassed and infuriated by.
                      It a pretty shitty stereotype that shows how piss poor if a person someone really is of they think that way.

                      Talk about perpetuating a stereotype....

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                      Last edited by buckeye; 10-24-2014, 03:59 PM.

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                      • jeffx
                        Member
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 3853

                        #12
                        This shit is nothing new. Back in my school days (early-to-mid 70s), some of the brothas called me "white", "faggot" and "punk" because I wasn't "down" like they were. I actually bothered to get good grades, and was only average at sports. It's bad enough when whites associate "blackness" with low-class behavior, but it's worse when blacks do it. Carl Banks and Cris Carter called it stupid, ignorant and immature. I'll add self-destructive. Hopefully these young cats will grow out of that mindset.

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                        • Derrville
                          Dallas has no coaching...
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 5321

                          #13
                          If he was too black he probably wouldnt have won a super bowl.

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                          • GopherGuy
                            Noob
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 32

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ThunderHorse
                            It probably does have a little truth to it.

                            The whole "Acting Black" thing is nothing new. There's a real disconnect there, because someone can't "Act Black" - You can't pretend to be black, you either are or you aren't. If this is true I'd be more interested to know whether or not it was Wilson's attitude and how he treats his fellow teammates, or if it's how he treats the black community now that he's in a position where he can actually do something constructive for it.

                            I do not know how financially stable Wilson's life was while he grew up, or where exactly he grew up. I do find it a bit odd that he only has white friends, but it's not a big deal and I don't think it's a testament to his character, He probably just has more in common with those white guys than other people. The reason I find it a bit odd is, I grew up in the Midwest but lived my teens and all of my adult life in the deep south. I too am mixed like Wilson (I actually get a lot of jokes about how we look so much alike even though I'm better looking and a much more impressive physical specimen), but the experience is different down here. It's hard to make real friends with white people and Black people are a lot faster to accept you and assimilate you into their social group.
                            Oh Really?

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                            • Slateman
                              Junior Member
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 2777

                              #15


                              Apparently, Beast Mode doesn't think Wilson is black enough either.
                              The king was shaken. He went up to the room over the gateway and wept.
                              As he went, he said: "O my son Absalom! My son, my son Absalom!
                              If only I had died instead of you
                              O Absalom, my son, my son!"

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