Greg Paulus... the Michigan QB?

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  • FirstTimer
    Freeman Error

    • Feb 2009
    • 18729

    #16
    Originally posted by ralaw
    Can someone explain to me how he has 1 year of football eligibilty, because I'm not understanding. Do college athletes have 5 years of athletic eligibility if they haven't graduated or something?
    The way I think it goes is you have 5 years of athletic elegibility in general, but can only use 4, maximum, in one sport. So he used 4 of his 5 years in basketball, but he used ALL of his basketball up. That means he hs one year left to use in a sport of his choosing. I'm pretty sure he could use it in Lacrosse or anything if he wanted to but he obviously would want to use it in football.

    I could be WAY off.......... but this is just my guess.

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    • ralaw
      Posts too much
      • Feb 2009
      • 6663

      #17
      Originally posted by Firsttimer
      The way I think it goes is you have 5 years of athletic elegibility in general, but can only use 4, maximum, in one sport. So he used 4 of his 5 years in basketball, but he used ALL of his basketball up. That means he hs one year left to use in a sport of his choosing. I'm pretty sure he could use it in Lacrosse or anything if he wanted to but he obviously would want to use it in football.

      I could be WAY off.......... but this is just my guess.
      I don't understand how Paulus can transfer to Michigan without getting around the usual penalty of having to sit out one year, which would wipe out his only remaining year to play.

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      • FirstTimer
        Freeman Error

        • Feb 2009
        • 18729

        #18
        Originally posted by ralaw
        I don't understand how Paulus can transfer to Michigan without getting around the usual penalty of having to sit out one year, which would wipe out his only remaining year to play.
        Maybe because he never played football at Duke. The transfer rule about sitting out a year may only apply if you are transferring from one school to another to play the same sport.

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        • Senser81
          VSN Poster of the Year
          • Feb 2009
          • 12804

          #19
          Originally posted by ralaw
          I don't understand how Paulus can transfer to Michigan without getting around the usual penalty of having to sit out one year, which would wipe out his only remaining year to play.
          They only make you sit out a year if you don't suck at sports.

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          • NAHSTE
            Probably owns the site
            • Feb 2009
            • 22233

            #20
            Originally posted by ralaw
            Can someone explain to me how he has 1 year of football eligibilty, because I'm not understanding. Do college athletes have 5 years of athletic eligibility if they haven't graduated or something?
            Because he didn't redshirt and he graduated on time, I believe he has one year of eligibility in a different sport. This is similar to the rule that allowed the Utah player to transfer to Florida for his 5th year and play immediately after he had graduated.

            I don't think that rule is still in effect but I do believe it still applies if you are choosing to play a different sport. He has 1 year of football eligibility left by virtue of not redshirting, and since he is going to graduate from Duke in June and will attend Michigan grad school, he does not have to sit out.

            NCAA put the rule in place to incentivize graduation rates I believe.
            Last edited by NAHSTE; 04-16-2009, 11:20 AM.

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            • FirstTimer
              Freeman Error

              • Feb 2009
              • 18729

              #21
              Damn. I was half right.

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              • Herm
                Boomshakalaka
                • Oct 2008
                • 9314

                #22
                Yeah Anthony Epps from the 95-96 Kentucky basketball team decided he wanted to play WR in his 5th year for Kentucky and i dont think he ever saw the field

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                • Mogriffjr
                  aka Reece
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 2759

                  #23
                  he might not go to Michigan...i think Syracuse and a few other schools were options for him.
                  Originally posted by Nick Mangold
                  Wes Welker is a great player. He's really taken advantage of watching film. If we don't keep a Spy on him, he could really open the Gate.

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                  • Vinsane
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 5971

                    #24
                    OK here's what I gather from the "fifth year" talk.

                    A red shirt allows a player to gain a year of eligibility in any one sport. The NCAA put in place that a participant in a sport could not play more than four years of that sport, as it coincides with the time taken to earn a bachelor degree at an American college. Thus four years of a sport would equal four years of studies. The red shirt rule was introduced in the 60's? Anyways it gives a player an extension of their eligibility. As long as they don't appear on the field/court for that season they could extend their eligibility past a year.

                    So in Paulus' case he's already used up his four years of eligibility playing basketball in the NCAA he couldn't go to Michigan and play BBall for them even if he wanted to. He'll be attending a year of grad school at Michigan which would translate to 1 year of football eligibility. If I'm right, and I don't think I am. Paulus could actually sign to Michigan to play football, take a redshirt year, push his eligibility ahead and play football NEXT season for the Wolverines.

                    This isn't too far of a stretch as the NCAA has allowed I believe one player, an Oklahoma Quarterback, can't remember his name. A sixth year of eligibility due to their "medical hardship" rule where an injury kept the kid out for a full season, thus extending him further in eligibility, after he used his red shirt year as well.
                    25-02, 23:16 Yawkey Way celtics fucking suck

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                    • Kuzzy Powers
                      Beautiful Like Moses
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 12542

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Mogriffjr
                      he might not go to Michigan...i think Syracuse and a few other schools were options for him.
                      Apparently its confirmed hes going to Michigan... and apparently will get a shot at starting, too. Per Rotoworld, whos usually very reliable.

                      Originally posted by Rotoworld
                      Former Duke point guard Greg Paulus will join Michigan's football team and be given an opportunity to compete for the starting quarterback job this fall.
                      Paulus, an All-American quarterback in high school, will graduate from Duke in June. He has one year of football eligibility and will enroll as a graduate student at Michigan. Paulus recent worked out for the Packers.

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                      • Sportsbuck
                        Buckeye For Life
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 3045

                        #26
                        Tate Forcier isn't too happy about this..

                        Originally Posted by tate forcier
                        From what I’ve heard, I’ve been talking to coaches all morning, my position coach, Coach (Rod) Smith, he told me specifically that they have not offered him. They don’t know why he would lie. They don’t know the kid. They haven’t offered them. They said we’ll let you’ll know what’s up, because right now, their specific words were, they haven’t offered them.

                        I want to believe my coaches, I committed (to) them. Why would a kid like him lie to national media? So to me it’s still up in the air.

                        From what I’ve heard, he hasn’t been offered anything yet, he hasn’t accepted anything yet.

                        We were actually in practice here, we were having a meeting before practice, and he walked in, and I recognized him. I was like, ‘Who is he?’ And I talked to the coaches about it, and he’s trying to find out the best options available.

                        His quotes saying they offered him, I woke up and it was on TV. My coaches were calling me, they called me like three times this morning before I even saw it, but I don’t know if they saw it on TV before I did and just wanted to tell me the truth. It’s hard. I can’t give you a word on it. I’m not worried about it, a kid like that was good in high school, but it’s nearly impossible to come back to this level and play. It might be possible, but not in the QB position. You have to know too much. You have to know the speed of the game.

                        If it happens, it happens. I still highly doubt he’s coming. It would be impossible.

                        I talked to (Michigan) Coach (Rich) Rod(riguez) and he said (Paulus) doesn’t know if he wants to play football or be a basketball coach at Duke or coach football. He doesn’t know yet. I might not be getting the whole story from my coaches, but there’s no final word.

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                        • NAHSTE
                          Probably owns the site
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 22233

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Vinsane
                          This isn't too far of a stretch as the NCAA has allowed I believe one player, an Oklahoma Quarterback, can't remember his name. A sixth year of eligibility due to their "medical hardship" rule where an injury kept the kid out for a full season, thus extending him further in eligibility, after he used his red shirt year as well.
                          Nate Hybl, but he's far from the first or last to be granted a 6th year. Kirsten Pittman started at DE for LSU the last two years but was also a freshman who played a lot on the 03 National Championship squad. He missed two years with 4 separate injuries (two ligaments, broken ankle and a torn achilles) so got to play 6 years.

                          But that is a medical redshirt. Paulus only gets one season of eligibility per the rule he is taking advantage of.

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                          • Sportsbuck
                            Buckeye For Life
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 3045

                            #28
                            Originally posted by NAHSTE13
                            Nate Hybl, but he's far from the first or last to be granted a 6th year. Kirsten Pittman started at DE for LSU the last two years but was also a freshman who played a lot on the 03 National Championship squad. He missed two years with 4 separate injuries (two ligaments, broken ankle and a torn achilles) so got to play 6 years.
                            Jason White

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