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Originally posted by raiderfan7
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Arizona's reaction to that offer:
Originally posted by ram29jackson
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You're kidding me right? We aren't known fro QB's or WR's? Duh? Really? But we just went out and picked up a Pro Bowl QB.
If the Bears were so concerned with "the tradition of a strong running game and defense" why would they give up two first rounders, a third rounder, and their starting QB for Jay Cutler?
Second, the Bears actually contacted Arizona on draft day about trading for Boldin. They called to see if their 2nd Rd selection would have been enough to get him away from Arizona, plus some other picks thrown in. Arizona declined. So yes, the Bears were pursuing Boldin as recently as 3 days ago.
Fucking idiot.Last edited by FirstTimer; 04-28-2009, 08:51 AM.Comment
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You just wait. When Cutler throws more picks than tds and never throws for over 200 yards in any game....You'll see.....Cause the Bears aren't allowed to have a decent QB. The Football GODS won't allow it. Cutler is now ruined. Yeah that's right. The Bears ruined Cutler.
That or the Bears do have a good QB and the world is coming to an end. That's it. Either Cutler sucks or the world is ending. Jay Cutler and the Bears killed humanity. We'll know, during the first Bears game, if the apocalypse/Armageddon is coming soon.Last edited by bucky; 04-28-2009, 09:28 AM.Comment
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Just to even further add to my previous comments:
The NFC North is big on tradition? That's why since 1990 off the top of my head the NFC North teams have been home to:
The Lions Run and Shoot. Mitchell, Moore, Perriman, Sanders
Brett Favre chucking it around...and now Aaron Rodgers
Daunte Culpepper/Randall Cunningham, Randy Moss, Cris Carter airing it out
The Bears bringing in Gary Crowton to run a spread offense, and then going after Rex Grossman so they have a vertical passing game and now then bringing in Jay Cutler and pursuing Boldin.
Jesus Christ. Quit listening to what Chris Berman says about the division and actually formulate your own thoughts.Comment
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Listen Dumb Fuck those are my own thoughts if I quoted Chris I would have cited him. Those are my thoughts and they are so fucking true... What has Rex Grossman done lately? Huh? What has he done? Yea the Bears may want to go out and get someone decent as far as QB & WR but hell you cant fucking name anybody seriously because they all wind up sucking in Chicago. You already know that chances are the Bears wont get Boldin either, but becuz you're on Cutlers dick you can't seem to see past the nut in your eyes to see the future. Oh wait maybe the nut in your eyes is seeing his future.....
And you just fucking proved my point with the rest of the division, Viking has been looking for a QB and been drafting more so speed at WR, Lions are starting to get the talent for their idenity, GB hasnt changed and neither has Chicago....
Shall we continue?Comment
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Yeah FT....Bang that fiance as much as you can, while you can. Cause if the Bears get a decent QB, the world is coming to an end. You can bank on it.Comment
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There is too much Bears discussion in this thread.Comment
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Hold on, let me just bring your original quote here
When I (and any other sane person) read that quote, what you are saying is that because a team ran a strong defence in the past, means that there is no way for them to change their identity. Apparently all four teams in the division are going to be stuck in a football version of groundhog day, trying to do the same formula over and over again.Side Note: Bears will Not, I repeat will NOT get Boldin or any other Big Name WR... THe NFC North is big on tradition and the Bears tradition is Strong Defense and a Excellent Run Game... They were never know for a QB and/or WR's.
Heck, if we are going to talk about tradition, why is Sage Rogenfels the QB in Minny? Why not just let Tavaris Jackson run around with his head cut off like Fran Tarkenton? I mean he has a good defence behind him, they can call themselves the Purple People Eaters vol 2.
It was obvious the tradition you were referring to is that of the NFC North being the 'Black and Blue' division. Firsttimer's point, again, as sane people can see, is that the 'Black and Blue' division is a misnomer now. The Vikings were home to a record setting offence 10 years ago. You can't seem to get your point straight, as you seem to think that Minnesota wants to return to the Cunningham/Carter/Moss years, while ignoring the fact that if anything they are trying to become a smash mouth team with AP. They need a QB and a WR just to try and give him some space, not to become some air it out team.Comment
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I would have rather had you cite him and admit it was him. That means you're just an absolute idiot as well. No help needed.
They obviously aren't. I already cited you examples of why they aren't.
Here's another one: In the days immedietly following the season GM Jerry Angelo at his press conference said the Bears were "obsessed" with fixing the QB position and getting it right because it's the most important position on the field and wins you ball games. Sound like a team concerned with the bullshit "tradition" you speak of?
Add to that the fact that they went out and paid A LOT for Jay Cutler....
Talk about missing the point...Follow me here. Rex Grossman since 2006 hasn't done anything. The QB position for the Bears for the most part hasn't for it's history. Which is why the team has only been to two Super Bowls and the team has been average the last two seasons.
The point is the Bears brought in Rex to do something. To be a franchise QB and lead them. If they were so concerned with this tradition of running the football and defense only then they would not have spent a 1st Rd pick on him.
They "may want to"? They just fuicking traded for a 26 year old Pro Bowl QB and were pursuing as of 3 days ago a Pro Bowl WR.
Forest from the trees...the fact that the Bears keep trying to bring in guys and find an answer shows that they know that QB is a big deal and you need one to win regardless of this mythical dumbass idea of only having to rely on a strong defense and a running game....
Who said I thought they would? I simply pointed out that they were pursuing him as of 3 days ago...which shows you are completely wrong in your idea that the Bears don't care about the QB/WR position and don't view it as a priority.
I know they won't get Boldin. I never even said they were going to. I simply showed they were going after him.
No I didn't "prove your point". The fact that you think that leads me to believe you are brain damaged.
I showed you that the NFC North gives two shits about the "tradition" of running the football and strong defense being it because you've had teams for the last 19 years in the division chucking the football around, or at least attempting. This proves your point wrong. If the NFC North was so worried about their "tradition" you wouldn't have teams wanting to find QB's and throwing the ball around they way they have been/have been wanting to for 19 years.
I don't know. Shall we? Do you feel like having yourself be made to look like a fool all day?Comment
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Agreed.. we would pick there behind the Hasselbeck-Deon Butler connection.Originally posted by glenwillett
And then we'll also pick 5th thanks to you guys ;)Originally posted by ram29jacksonComment
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DHB at best would be the 3rd WR on Arizona's depth chart.. and honestly I don't think he'd beat out Doucet or maybe even Urban at this point.Originally posted by raiderfan7Originally posted by ram29jacksonComment
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Since I didnt really knw a lot about Patrick Chung I wasnt to sure about him. But since I have read and seen videos on him think he will fit perfectly into the Patriots defense. He is a close to the line type player just like Rodney Harrison was and could be perfect for filling the void since Harrison might retire this season. With Brandon Meriweather having a pretty good season I think our secondary will be pretty good this year.
I also think drafting Ron Brace and Darius Butler were good moves. With Seymour and Wilfork both have expiring contracts coming within the next year and we probably wont get to keep both (hopefully we keep Wilfork) so he could be a replacement.
I give the patriots draft a B. I cant give them higher because I have to see how they pan out.Comment
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Chung made a name for himself very early on at Oregon but seemed to hit his peak half-way through his college career.
I don't know what happened, but there was a lot of hype surrounding Chung as he was a 4 year starter but it's almost as if his game-play capped out during his sophomore and junior seasons.
With the right coaching and in the right system, I think there is a lot of room for him to develop.Comment
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