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  • Rayman
    Spic 'n Spanish
    • Feb 2009
    • 4626

    #16
    Originally posted by Tailback U
    Buehler played LB in HS and transferred from USC as a fullback/safety. He was an All-Conference LB, Fullback, and placekicker in junior college.

    Not your typical kicker at 6'2" 225.

    Not to mention I can bench press 225 nearly as many times as Michael Oher. Do you think that makes me as strong as him?

    Literally means nothing. Bench press is stupider than 40 times.
    Never said anything about his strength, but there's no excuse for him not to be able to do it 25 times.

    It means his muscle endurance sucks ass. He's going to get owned by good DEs late in games.



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    • Tailback U
      No substitute 4 strength.
      • Nov 2008
      • 10282

      #17
      Originally posted by RayManHCP42
      Never said anything about his strength, but there's no excuse for him not to be able to do it 25 times.

      It means his muscle endurance sucks ass. He's going to get owned by good DEs late in games.
      LOL are you fucking serious. He is going to get owned by good DEs late in games because he bench pressed 225 19 times instead of 25?

      hahaha seriously dude, please tell me you are joking right now.

      Not to mention there is a huge difference between strength, power, and endurance. Bench pressing 225 as many times as you can doesn't mean anything in regards to football, especially the OTackle position for several reasons.

      1) Nobody you go up against is 225.

      2) Positioning, hip & leg strength mean so much more than bench press.

      3) You are never laying on your back on the football field. The entire concept of the bench press translating to on the field strength is ridiculous because you are always on two feet on the field.

      4) Some guys can bench press 500 pounds for 1 rep but only bench press 225 20 times. Others can bench press only 400 for 1 rep but can throw 225 up 25+ times. There is a huge difference between power, strength, and endurance. It depends on how you train and none of it translates to the otackle position anyway.

      5) I could go on forever, but I'm hoping you get the point.
      Last edited by Tailback U; 04-28-2009, 02:36 PM.

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      • dave
        Go the fuck outside
        • Oct 2008
        • 15492

        #18
        If he stays healthy, I think the answer is Chris Wells.
        With his size and speed, and the way the Cards play offence, he could do serious damage.
        A big caveat is the Cards ability to get Boldin back into the fold.
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        • BigBiss
          Junior Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 1912

          #19
          Originally posted by dave
          If he stays healthy, I think the answer is Chris Wells.
          With his size and speed, and the way the Cards play offence, he could do serious damage.
          A big caveat is the Cards ability to get Boldin back into the fold.
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          • MRN
            MRNeverwearthesamething
            • Nov 2008
            • 4271

            #20
            Read an article where Kiper though Jarron Gilbert was a huge steal for the Bears.

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            • Mit
              very nice..how much?
              • Dec 2008
              • 3935

              #21
              I'm saying Michael Johnson for the Bengals in the 3rd round.

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              • Shayn•Da•Pain
                Laughs Unlimited
                • Nov 2008
                • 5204

                #22
                Rey Rey Maulogaghiaghhgaahgala was the steal of the draft in the 2nd round, he should have been a round 1 guy.

                Michael Oher was another guy to mention, because he was passed over by teams that needed him, and landed with the Ravens who REALLY needed him. He's going to be great.

                If you look at the Jets trading up to steal Freeman from the Broncos who really wanted him, that was funny to me. I love when players get stolen from franchises who really wanted them.
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                • Tailback U
                  No substitute 4 strength.
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 10282

                  #23
                  Originally posted by MRN
                  Read an article where Kiper though Jarron Gilbert was a huge steal for the Bears.
                  I'd be surprised if Gilbert pans out. I go to San Jose State and have seen him play, he looked great at times but I never saw how anything that showed me he is an every down type of NFL DL.

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                  • Blick
                    The Judge
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 1557

                    #24
                    Originally posted by celtsxpatsxsox
                    Everette Brown-Some people thought he was early first round talent but ended up slipping half way through the second round

                    Ray Maualuga-Once again some people saw him as a mid first rounder but slipped to the Bengals in the second round
                    Those were my picks as well.

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                    • Rayman
                      Spic 'n Spanish
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 4626

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Tailback U
                      LOL are you fucking serious. He is going to get owned by good DEs late in games because he bench pressed 225 19 times instead of 25?

                      hahaha seriously dude, please tell me you are joking right now.

                      Not to mention there is a huge difference between strength, power, and endurance. Bench pressing 225 as many times as you can doesn't mean anything in regards to football, especially the OTackle position for several reasons.

                      1) Nobody you go up against is 225.

                      2) Positioning, hip & leg strength mean so much more than bench press.

                      3) You are never laying on your back on the football field. The entire concept of the bench press translating to on the field strength is ridiculous because you are always on two feet on the field.

                      4) Some guys can bench press 500 pounds for 1 rep but only bench press 225 20 times. Others can bench press only 400 for 1 rep but can throw 225 up 25+ times. There is a huge difference between power, strength, and endurance. It depends on how you train and none of it translates to the otackle position anyway.

                      5) I could go on forever, but I'm hoping you get the point.
                      Hey, I learned something today.


                      No, honestly, I was under the impression that Oher didn't even do 15 at the combine. Must have been thinking of someone else.

                      Why you so angry the last couple days? Wanna talk about it?



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                      • Tailback U
                        No substitute 4 strength.
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 10282

                        #26
                        Originally posted by RayManHCP42
                        Hey, I learned something today.


                        No, honestly, I was under the impression that Oher didn't even do 15 at the combine. Must have been thinking of someone else.

                        Why you so angry the last couple days? Wanna talk about it?
                        I am angry because I have to spend 10 minutes out of my day explaining why the fucking bench press doesn't translate to functional football strength!!!!!

                        And why the fuck do you think I'm mad my fucking team just drafted ANOTHER track star instead of a football player.

                        I apologize, I'm just sick so frustrated with this organization and everyone else just piling on. It sucks.
                        Last edited by Tailback U; 04-28-2009, 07:38 PM.

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                        • Rayman
                          Spic 'n Spanish
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 4626

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Tailback U
                          I am angry because I have to spend 10 minutes out of my day explaining why the fucking bench press doesn't translate to functional football strength!!!!!

                          And why the fuck do you think I'm mad my fucking team just drafted ANOTHER track star instead of a football player.

                          I apologize, I'm just sick so frustrated with this organization and everyone else just piling on. It sucks.
                          Yeah, welcome to my world circa 6 years ago.



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                          • Kia Kaha
                            52Ray_Lewis
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 1075

                            #28
                            i think CIN didnt get a steal with maualuga, he cant play in the 4-3, he will be very bad, there is a reason he fell to 38

                            I am going to say some guys that went in the 4th round like Lawrence Sidbury, how he fell to the 4th i dont know, the guy is an absolute freak and will be a great DE similar to Robert mathis but bigger IMO

                            Some UDFAS i think are steals are Frantz Joseph to OAK, Chris Baker to DEN, and Mark Parson to DET

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                            • Nukleopatra
                              Posts a lot
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 4365

                              #29
                              Mel Kiper mentioned Terrance Taylor as a possible steal. Guy was once projected as a first rounder.

                              91 strength, fuckers!

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                              • mgoblue2290
                                Posts too much
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 7174

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Tailback U
                                LOL are you fucking serious. He is going to get owned by good DEs late in games because he bench pressed 225 19 times instead of 25?

                                hahaha seriously dude, please tell me you are joking right now.

                                Not to mention there is a huge difference between strength, power, and endurance. Bench pressing 225 as many times as you can doesn't mean anything in regards to football, especially the OTackle position for several reasons.

                                1) Nobody you go up against is 225.

                                2) Positioning, hip & leg strength mean so much more than bench press.

                                3) You are never laying on your back on the football field. The entire concept of the bench press translating to on the field strength is ridiculous because you are always on two feet on the field.

                                4) Some guys can bench press 500 pounds for 1 rep but only bench press 225 20 times. Others can bench press only 400 for 1 rep but can throw 225 up 25+ times. There is a huge difference between power, strength, and endurance. It depends on how you train and none of it translates to the otackle position anyway.

                                5) I could go on forever, but I'm hoping you get the point.

                                Thank you. They should have o-lineman squat, it means a lot more than bench press.

                                Anyways, I'm gonna go with Everette Brown as well, seems like he could do well in the league.

                                For my super awesome outside of shot of doing well in the league, I'm going with Rhett Bomar.
                                Last edited by mgoblue2290; 04-28-2009, 09:29 PM.

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