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  • Tailback U
    No substitute 4 strength.
    • Nov 2008
    • 10282

    #31
    Originally posted by Kia Kaha
    i think CIN didnt get a steal with maualuga, he cant play in the 4-3, he will be very bad, there is a reason he fell to 38

    I am going to say some guys that went in the 4th round like Lawrence Sidbury, how he fell to the 4th i dont know, the guy is an absolute freak and will be a great DE similar to Robert mathis but bigger IMO

    Some UDFAS i think are steals are Frantz Joseph to OAK, Chris Baker to DEN, and Mark Parson to DET
    Maualuga can play in a 4-3, although I do think he would have been a better fit in a 3-4 scheme.

    I've seen you knocking him here and there and I don't get it. I guess you aren't a fan of his pass coverage, which I understand, but he has so much potential and upside to him that it makes up for his lack of pass coverage.

    Don't know if you have seen these highlights of him, if not, you need to:

    [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WyMRq-7SLA&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.milehighreport.com%2F2009%2F 1%2F14%2F720716%2Filb-rey-maualuga-usc&feature=player_embedded[/media]

    He has great short-area burst and quickness. He is a downhill MLB that attacks the LOS violently. He is exceptional at taking on guards and fullbacks, making him an elite run stopping MLB. He is also a great blitzer.

    I would bet good money that he is going to be a starter in this league for a long long time. He has the tools to be elite, he just needs to fine tune some of his skills (pass coverage, wrapping up/breaking down). I really think that his intensity/aggressiveness and ability to take on blocks is unmatched by any MLB in this years draft.

    He is the type of player that can ignite and fire up an entire defense.

    Here's another clip you need to see:

    Rey destroying a center:
    [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRodPG4gfJQ&NR=1[/media]
    Last edited by Tailback U; 04-28-2009, 09:39 PM.

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    • Flight24
      Jesus' Dad.
      • Nov 2008
      • 2995

      #32
      LeSean McCoy at pick 53. Hands down.

      Dude is explosive. Fits perfectly into the Philadelphia offense. Lovin' it.

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      • Kia Kaha
        52Ray_Lewis
        • Dec 2008
        • 1075

        #33
        Originally posted by Tailback U
        Maualuga can play in a 4-3, although I do think he would have been a better fit in a 3-4 scheme.

        I've seen you knocking him here and there and I don't get it. I guess you aren't a fan of his pass coverage, which I understand, but he has so much potential and upside to him that it makes up for his lack of pass coverage.

        Don't know if you have seen these highlights of him, if not, you need to:

        [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WyMRq-7SLA&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.milehighreport.com%2F2009%2F 1%2F14%2F720716%2Filb-rey-maualuga-usc&feature=player_embedded[/media]

        He has great short-area burst and quickness. He is a downhill MLB that attacks the LOS violently. He is exceptional at taking on guards and fullbacks, making him an elite run stopping MLB. He is also a great blitzer.

        I would bet good money that he is going to be a starter in this league for a long long time. He has the tools to be elite, he just needs to fine tune some of his skills (pass coverage, wrapping up/breaking down). I really think that his intensity/aggressiveness and ability to take on blocks is unmatched by any MLB in this years draft.

        He is the type of player that can ignite and fire up an entire defense.

        Here's another clip you need to see:

        Rey destroying a center:
        [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRodPG4gfJQ&NR=1[/media]
        I dont understand when people do that, as charlis casterly says "avoid highlight tape" it makes people look great

        Maualuga is good value where they got him but he doesnt fit there defense, he needs to be a 3-4 thumper, i know a lot about Maualuga as i watch all of USC's games, i just dont like the way he tackles or defense the pass. Good value at 38 but not great fit

        I like Maualuga style as he reminds me of Ray lewis with his passion, agressivness and run stopping but ray Lewis also has coverage skills and tackles correctly, if Maualigua can learn how to tackle and defend the pass he will be a great pick but i jsut don think eh can do that, he is too agressive and is better suited to a 3-4 than a 4-3

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        • Champ
          Needs a hobby
          • Oct 2008
          • 14424

          #34
          Ramses Barden


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          • MVP1991
            The Man
            • Feb 2009
            • 2342

            #35
            Michael Mitchell

            The Golden Turducken
            Season 1: 11-5 (Super Bowl Champion)
            Season 2: 12-4 (NFC West Champion)

            Season 3: 9-4

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            • Tailback U
              No substitute 4 strength.
              • Nov 2008
              • 10282

              #36
              Originally posted by Kia Kaha
              I dont understand when people do that, as charlis casterly says "avoid highlight tape" it makes people look great
              Because I can't find any clips of his bad plays. I saw the one you posted in your thread about him, he has far more great plays than bad ones, that's for sure. Not to mention highlight videos are comparable from player to player. Why do you think college scouts take a look at them?

              Maualuga is good value where they got him but he doesnt fit there defense, he needs to be a 3-4 thumper, i know a lot about Maualuga as i watch all of USC's games, i just dont like the way he tackles or defense the pass. Good value at 38 but not great fit

              I like Maualuga style as he reminds me of Ray lewis with his passion, agressivness and run stopping but ray Lewis also has coverage skills and tackles correctly, if Maualigua can learn how to tackle and defend the pass he will be a great pick but i jsut don think eh can do that, he is too agressive and is better suited to a 3-4 than a 4-3
              The only real difference between us is that you don't believe Maualuga can learn how to become a better player, step his game up in the league and develop into a dominating and complete middle linebacker. I do.

              For the record, Ray Lewis was the 5th linebacker taken in the draft in 1996 because NFL teams believed he was too small to play the position, so there were obviously doubts about him but he still managed to have an ok career.
              Last edited by Tailback U; 04-29-2009, 03:20 AM.

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              • Rayman
                Spic 'n Spanish
                • Feb 2009
                • 4626

                #37
                Originally posted by Tailback U
                Because I can't find any clips of his bad plays. I saw the one you posted in your thread about him, he has far more great plays than bad ones, that's for sure. Not to mention highlight videos are comparable from player to player. Why do you think college scouts take a look at them?
                On that note, I cast my vote for this guy.

                [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xNHslOKvZU&feature=player_embedded[/media]



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                • Tailback U
                  No substitute 4 strength.
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 10282

                  #38
                  Originally posted by RayManHCP42
                  On that note, I cast my vote for this guy.

                  [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xNHslOKvZU&feature=player_embedded[/media]
                  I know you are half-joking, but that guys highlight video is pretty sub-par so I don't know what you are trying to prove exactly.

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                  • Kuzzy Powers
                    Beautiful Like Moses
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 12542

                    #39
                    Biggest steal of the draft is the man in my Av. Iglesias FTW!

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                    • Bmore
                      The True Free-Man
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 6256

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Bob Kuzzy
                      Biggest steal of the draft is the man in my Av. Iglesias FTW!
                      or not...

                      That guy is way to slow.


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                      • Rayman
                        Spic 'n Spanish
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 4626

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Tailback U
                        I know you are half-joking, but that guys highlight video is pretty sub-par so I don't know what you are trying to prove exactly.
                        I know, it lacks the crappy music and highlight camera angles.

                        lol, no. I'm actually excited about this guy because he seems to get an excellent jump off the ball and has good closing speed to the QB. There's coachable potential there. Problem is that's about all he has. No hand to hand moves, no bull rushing, etc.

                        But I think we might have something with him. Led the Big 12 in sacks.



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                        • Kuzzy Powers
                          Beautiful Like Moses
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 12542

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Bmore
                          or not...

                          That guy is way to slow.
                          They said the same thing about Derrick Mason. Hes done pretty well for you guys hasnt he?

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                          • Bmore
                            The True Free-Man
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 6256

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Bob Kuzzy
                            They said the same thing about Derrick Mason. Hes done pretty well for you guys hasnt he?
                            no...

                            Derrick Mason used the return kicks for tennessee. Mason has only recently slowed because of his age. But thats for comparing Jauquin Iglesias to Derrick Mason.


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                            • Kuzzy Powers
                              Beautiful Like Moses
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 12542

                              #44
                              Bears selected Oklahoma WR Juaquin Iglesias with the No. 99 overall pick in the NFL Draft.
                              An outstanding pick. Iglesias, Heisman winner Sam Bradford's go-to guy in 2008 with 1,150 yards, 10 scores, and 74 catches, could be an immediate upgrade over Rashied Davis in the slot. Iglesias ran pro routes at OU and is quicker than fast. He profiles similar to Derrick Mason with the right development. Iglesias was our favorite wideout left after day one.

                              Someone agrees..

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