DeMarcus Ware

[Bmore]

i wish we had the archives from madden list when you had the whole ravens team in the top ten and five for everything. the fans i that chat on stealths feed were just rooting for their team, you didnt like them cuz they showed flacco no love.

james harrison did his job and i never said the ravens o-line sucked, but they arent as good as the giants o-line and they got owned.

i amy be a homer, but it doesnt blind me the way it does you to other people besides guys on my team being good.

What in the hell are you talking about.

I ain't never said the whole Ravens team is on a top ten or top five. The only players i've ever debated with you were Haloti Ngata (on Chat box), Ed Reed (on Chat box) and Derrick Mason (on a Thread). Besides that I debated with Don about Terrell Suggs.

quit trying to pull ghost moves.

[Leftwich]

What in the hell are you talking about.

I ain't never said the whole Ravens team is on a top ten or top five. The only players i've ever debated with you were Haloti Ngata (on Chat box), Ed Reed (on Chat box) and Derrick Mason (on a Thread). Besides that I debated with Don about Terrell Suggs.

quit trying to pull ghost moves.

Shut up ho. You talk everytime someone talks shit about your team. And you refer to your players with gay nicknames no one uses such as T-Sizzle.

Lol Fag.

[Bmore]

Shut up ho. You talk everytime someone talks shit about your team. And you refer to your players with gay nicknames no one uses such as T-Sizzle.

Lol Fag.

Leftwich I wait till I tell all you friends on Facebook you are a chubby chaser.

And no I don't, bitch. Why don't you hop off my dick before you start a fire.

[Point Blank]

[Champ]

not only that, but he is wrong about everything. and i'm pretty sure the Giants o-line is considered one of the best in the NFL and that didn't stop him.

they were the best, until they gave up 8 sacks last night.

Giants Offensive Line is considered one of the best Rushing Offensive Line no where near top Passing Offensive Lines. Just look at David Diehl.

[OnlyOneBeerLeft]

I believe the salt means salted...also known as maybe burned or whatnot decide whatever you wish for its meaning...Ware has more sacks...but Harrison with his FF really almost evens them out...if you count just sacks then Ware is number one obviously, but ovr Harrison looks better because he creates more turnovers

[Maestro]

Fuck You Leftwich, Trent Dilfer isn't top 5 QB of all time. He is top 5 ESPN football analyst of all time.

Now shut the fuck up and keep me posted on the O's

Whoa Whoa Whoa,do not insult the great ESPN analyst like that.

[Point Blank]

sorry tru i must be to tired to get it but salt???....lmao

..Salty..lol

[dboy_dc]

I see what yall saying about Harrison... Force Fumbles are a part of the keys to the Steelers victories. So Harrison is up there, but do yall see how Eli, Big Ben, and the other victims of D. Ware look after he sacks them? lol. I mean they look like they be in a train wreak, and then when they focus on Ware, Mr. Ratliff, B. James, and Ellis get their sacks as well.

[dboy_dc]

But you can say the same for the Steelers...

Ask Cassel how he felt after Harrison sacked and stripped him twice. Ask ya boy Tony Romo how he felt when Harrison stripped him. Want to focus on Harrison? Woodley's right there. Farrior and Timmons too. Not to mention Casey Hampton getting his two sacks a year in, and with that weight falling on you, you're fucked. Aaron Smith gets his sacks in too, even though our line is completely a run stopping line.

IMO that's the best type of D-Line to have. But I can see your point... It's a tough choice.

[dboy_dc]

Eh, that all depends on what defense you're running. If I'm running a 3-4 then I want run stoppers on the line. 4-3, and I'd go for pass rushers.

Can't forget about Porter beasting it in Miami either.

Oh yea I mentioned him in my first post. Joey been consistent over the years also.

[steeljake]

yea he has, people forget that porter was hurt last year and thats why his numbers were down. they got rid of taylor and thomas and now he is healthy and he is a beast.

i agree that harrison causes more fumbles, but he has a ton of help around him. woodley, farrior, foote and timmons all can get to the qb and the d-line is just as nasty even with kiesel missing time.

i dont know much about the supporting cast of ware, but i saw a few other guys getting sacks against the giants so it looks like he has some help.

Right now i say porter is #1, ware is 2 (just because he could break the record) and harrison is 2 A.

[Bmore]

Personally when it comes to DPOY, I would put Polamalu ahead of them all.

[steeljake]

stats ftl

[kmanharris]

stats ftl

why? because they show that Ware and Harrison are about the same and against common opponents Ware is better?