Boxing-vs-UFC/MMA

[JrRawlins]

I'm a casual boxing fan who will watch the free stuff whenever a big name fighter is on...which is to say, there hasn't been much in recent years past the Mayweather, De La Hoya, Hatton & Pacquiao stuff.

Right now, UFC is on pace to be the PPV king for something like the 3rd time out of the last 4 years (or at the very least, the second straight year).

I just can't get into boxing because I have no idea who the fighters are past big names above (and Roy Jones, the Klitschko's and maybe Tarver). I'm not watching HBO/SHO boxing with up and comers because I don't care. However, I will watch SHOmma to see journeyman and other fights because I like MMA over boxing.

I'm not even sure of how boxing works these days since a lot of fighters are promoting now.

dont you kinda contradict yourself in this post? you said you were a casual boxing fan and named a couple of fighters and said you wont watch any of the HBO/SHO boxing because you dont care right? then said you will watch SHOMMA to see journeyman and other fighters because you like MMA over boxing..... so essentially you are an MMA fan not a boxing fan.... correct?

reason i say this is if you are only watching the big name fighters.... then you are only watching 6 maybe 7 fights are year as most of those guys only fight once or twice a year..... whereas you are actively lookin for MMA fights whenever/whereever they are on....

some (many) people seem to think there is some choice between MMA or Boxing.... why cant there be MMA AND Boxing...... they are not competing for the same market... even though they are both combat sports, they are geared towards different people.... just my two cents....

if you prefer one over the other, so be it.... no need to bash something just because you prefer somethin else...

[Liquidrob]

remember when boxing had big fights on ABC on the weekend?

the money structure is very different, like I said, both have pros and cons, but in MMA the promoters are able to 'give away' big time fights and not take a huge hit money wise, well the UFC at least, strikeforce might still be able to pull it off

No way a top boxing draw will be a free TV, they just make to much money and there is no return like having it on PPV

only guy who could probably do it would be a Oscar because he has money and could use it to promote his GB promotion

[Liquidrob]

UFC-vs-Boxer...who wins?

what does this mean? I never heard of anyone who trained UFC

[EmpireWF]

dont you kinda contradict yourself in this post? you said you were a casual boxing fan and named a couple of fighters and said you wont watch any of the HBO/SHO boxing because you dont care right? then said you will watch SHOMMA to see journeyman and other fighters because you like MMA over boxing..... so essentially you are an MMA fan not a boxing fan.... correct?

reason i say this is if you are only watching the big name fighters.... then you are only watching 6 maybe 7 fights are year as most of those guys only fight once or twice a year..... whereas you are actively lookin for MMA fights whenever/whereever they are on....

some (many) people seem to think there is some choice between MMA or Boxing.... why cant there be MMA AND Boxing...... they are not competing for the same market... even though they are both combat sports, they are geared towards different people.... just my two cents....

if you prefer one over the other, so be it.... no need to bash something just because you prefer somethin else...

I don't think I bashed anything. I said I am a casual boxing fan...meaning, I'll watch the big fights when they come around once in a blue moon. Otherwise, I don't have a real interest in watching no name boxers fight.

I am a big MMA fan so I will watch an MMA show even if the fighters are not major names.

[Sven Draconian]

what does this mean? I never heard of anyone who trained UFC

Really, you can't figure it out? Semantics FTL

[Liquidrob]

Really, you can't figure it out? Semantics FTL

no, its a joke, some scrubs run around saying 'I train UFC', its actually very funny, but you probably wouldnt understand and train Affliction

[CrimsonGhost56]

i train sengoku on mondays and wednesdays, cage rage on tuesday with a little bit of yamma on fridays

[Liquidrob]

i train sengoku on mondays and wednesdays, cage rage on tuesday with a little bit of yamma on fridays

oh sweet, didnt know they teach yamma's on fridays, I'll have to look into it because they just cancelled my EliteXC class for obvious reasons

[EmpireWF]

Me and a bunch of pals try to keep the local PRIDE class going but those damn ZUFFA lawyers keep sending us cease & desist letters.

[Liquidrob]

Me and a bunch of pals try to keep the local PRIDE class going but those damn ZUFFA lawyers keep sending us cease & desist letters.

just call it DREAM training and you should be safe

[nflman2033]

you know one thing I have to say is, that if you don't have showtime or HBO, then really WTF are you watching, both networks(for lack of better term) have had the best shows on TV the past 10 years. So really the amount of Free fights is relative, to me they are Free because I won't live without my HBO, but I can see that not being on a major network is a big issue. Honestly I think Boxing only has maybe 2 or 3 fights a year that are worthy of PPV, however they end up doing like 7 or 8. and whats worse is thats just the HBOPPV, thats not talking about the WTF PPV's like when Holyfield was still fighting past his prime, or John Duddy, guys who have no business PPV, but are, also I think Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. fights on PPV.. WTF.. its things like this that make people think Boxing is dead.

speaking of Boxing and TV, Oscar is going to be having a show on Versus that is suposed to air Club Fights, should be interesting

[Liquidrob]

speaking of showtime/hbo, this saturday night Strikeforce will be putthin on a very good show, what I like about showtime is they sell boxing and MMA, they are trying to get both fans to watch which I never understood why a boxing fan wont watch MMA and why a MMA fan wont watch boxing

In the end its about combat and fighting, beating another man with different skill sets

I think the problem is the majority of MMA fans came over from pro wrestling, while some are good fans and knowledgable, the majority are idiots

the boxing fan seems to try and be more educated about there sport and the history of it

I enjoy both, always have, but I like almost any form of combat

also, the biggest problem is the boxer vs MMA fighter arguement where it wouldnt really be that big of an issue if you take your fandom out of it and see a MMA fighter trains for what more closely resembles an actual fight and 'should' win, boxing fans take it to much to heart, but its just the truth, anyone who has trained in multiple styles would be able to see that and just accept boxing is the best for hands, but train a very limited form of combat and perfected it and should be proud of that

[nflman2033]

I have tried to get into MMA, and some of the people I know like both, but I just don't get into it, don't really know why, well i do, but there is no point in arguing, but its probably similar to what you said

EDIT: however it is really funny how anytime I talk about Boxing people always start talking to me about MMA and all i can do is just nod my head

[Warner2BruceTD]

This is the worst thread ever.

Bumping to be part of history.

[dell71]

I'm a boxing guy, can't really get into MMA but I see why others do. The problem is boxing is run so ineptly it repeatedly pulls a Plaxico Burress and shoots itself in the leg. I'm from an era where ABC, CBS & NBC all had boxing on nearly every weekend. And I'm talking championship fights & top contenders fighting each other. Now, if we see a fight on ESPN or ESPN2 or the rare occasion on Fox and even much of the HBO & Showtime stuff we mostly get good fighters knocking over tomato cans. And $50 really is too much to pay for a PPV fight for most people.

BTW, whoever said Mexico doesn't count as far as sports is concerned should pay attention. Mexican fighters have loyal followings that shell out plenty of bucks for their PPV fights both in Mexico and in the US.