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  • JrRawlins
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    • May 2009
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    Former welterweight titleholders Joshua Clottey and Carlos Quintana both have their eyes on major fights, so they've agreed to go through each other to try to get there.



    Clottey and Quintana have agreed to meet Dec. 5 in a scheduled 10-round fight at a maximum contract weight of 149 pounds at Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, N.J., representatives for both sides told ESPN.com on Monday.



    The fight will open the HBO broadcast headlined by middleweight champion Kelly Pavlik's much-anticipated defense against Paul Williams.



    "The winner probably will be in line for a nice payday and a much bigger fight," said Carl Moretti of Top Rank, which promotes Clottey.



    Clottey (35-3, 20 KOs), a 32-year-old from Ghana living in New York, is coming off a split decision loss to welterweight titlist Miguel Cotto on June 13, a fight many believed Clottey won.



    Clottey had won a vacant 147-pound title in August 2008 when he claimed a nine-round technical decision against former undisputed champ Zab Judah. However, Clottey never defended his title, instead relinquishing it in order to facilitate the major fight with Cotto.



    "I think it's a great fight for us. Quintana is a good name for Josh to fight," manager Vinny Scolpino said. "It sets him up for a bigger fight maybe in February or March. Hopefully, Josh will come off this fight with a win and get a big fight. This will definitely be a good, good fight."



    Quintana (26-2, 20 KOs), 32, of Puerto Rico, won a title in February 2008 when he won a unanimous decision to hand Williams his only career defeat. However, Williams knocked out Quintana in the first round to regain the belt in the immediate rematch four months later.



    Quintana rebounded with a fourth-round knockout of journeyman Joshua Onyango in October, but hasn't fought yet this year.



    Like Clottey, Quintana also has a loss to Cotto, although a far more lopsided one. Cotto dominated Quintana en route to a fifth-round knockout when they met for a vacant title in 2005 at Boardwalk Hall.



    Lou DiBella, Quintana's promoter, announced an Oct. 24 card last week in Puerto Rico, which was supposed to feature Quintana and fellow former titlist Kermit Cintron in separate bouts. However, DiBella said with the Clottey fight coming together, Quintana was off the card.



    "Carlos has accepted the fight with Clottey and the contracts are being sent out. It's a good, tough fight between two tough fighters," said DiBella, who used to promote Clottey. "I think it's a very competitive fight with an interesting contrast of styles. Quintana is a skilled boxer. Clottey is a guy nobody knocks out that is extremely strong and durable. It's a tough fight between guys who are both among the best welterweights in the world."



    Clottey's camp and HBO had hoped to match him with Cintron, but Cintron elected to remain on the Oct. 24 card and face Juliano Ramos. Another option for Clottey was former junior welterweight titlist Kendall Holt. But he declined because he has other options and didn't want to move up in weight.



    Clottey had originally agreed to a Dec. 26 fight with welterweight champ Shane Mosley, but the fight was scrapped when HBO changed its mind about going with a fight telecast the day after Christmas. To make up for the about face, HBO agreed to put Clottey in the televised Pavlik-Williams co-feature.



    Quintana is a left-hander, but Scolpino said he is not concerned about that.



    "Josh handles southpaws very well. It doesn't bother him. He just does what he has to do in the ring," said Scolpino, pointing out that Clottey owns wins against lefties such as Judah and Shamone Alvarez.



    As for Quintana's chances?



    "It depends which Quintana shows up," Moretti said. "If he shows up ready, it's a difficult fight for Clottey. If he doesn't, Clottey is a handful for anybody and he has shown he can handle southpaws."



    should be a really good fight, but i expect Clottey to win...

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    • JrRawlins
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      • May 2009
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      the super six cant get here fast enough..... come on next weekend.....

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      • BigBucs
        Unpretentious
        • May 2009
        • 12758

        I cant wait to see King Aurthur brutalize Taylor. Gonna be like every other Taylor fight. Start fast, hit a wall and crash hard late in the later rounds. If Abraham was a fast starter he would probably be gone in the 1st half of the fight.




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        • JrRawlins
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          • May 2009
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          i do think Taylor will make hte fight interesting early.... but as the fight progresses i expect Abraham to start to dominate........

          the best first fight of the classic............. Ward vs Kessler...... i am curious to if Kessler is as good as everyone seemed....... and Ward's ability to switch styles and his speed could really pose a problem for Kessler...... Calzaghe's speed gave Kessler issues.......

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          • nflman2033
            George Brett of VSN
            • Apr 2009
            • 2393

            Originally posted by JrRawlins
            i do think Taylor will make hte fight interesting early.... but as the fight progresses i expect Abraham to start to dominate........

            the best first fight of the classic............. Ward vs Kessler...... i am curious to if Kessler is as good as everyone seemed....... and Ward's ability to switch styles and his speed could really pose a problem for Kessler...... Calzaghe's speed gave Kessler issues.......
            well you know I am high on Kessler, i think the only thing that bothers me is he hasn't handled the loss to Calzaghe well, and while his Speed gave him fits, I think it was more of Calzaghe's ability to adapt during the fight that really beat Kessler.

            Yeah I would be extremely shocked if the Taylor fight doesn't go do the way you guys have said, that or i will really have to start to doubt Abraham

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            • Kuzzy Powers
              Beautiful Like Moses
              • Oct 2008
              • 12542

              Need some advice boxing heads.. in the YURIOLKIS GAMBOA VS WHYBER GARCIA fight tomorrow.. the betting has the O/U in total rounds @ 5.5. O 5.5 rounds is +225, which seems like RIDICULOUS value. Is Gamboa THAT much better then Garcia that Garcia cant even last till the 6th round?? Just seems crazy to have those kind of odds.

              Similar for the Lopez/Mtgawa fight.. O 7.5 rounds is +200. Dude cant even last till the 8th round with Lopez?? Ridiculous value man. Ive noticed this before in boxing odds too and have cashed.. I cashed good odds on the total rounds of the Klitscho fight just a few weeks ago.
              Last edited by Kuzzy Powers; 10-09-2009, 08:58 PM.

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              • JrRawlins
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                • May 2009
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                Gamboa can be a flat out destroyer if he oppoennts defense isnt up to snuff, i dont know enough about
                Garcia to really know if he is a quality opponent...... but if he isnt, dont expect it to go very long...

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                • JrRawlins
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                  • May 2009
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                  • Fans looking to get even more pumped up for Showtime's Super Six World Boxing Classic super middleweight tournament, which opens Oct. 17, can look forward to Saturday night's premiere (10:30 ET/PT) of the network's six-episode reality series "Fight Camp 360°: Inside The Super Six World Boxing Classic." Produced in conjunction with NFL Films, the series aims to chronicle the revolutionary six-man tournament, which will play out over 12 fights in 18 months, from conception to the crowning of the champion. According to Showtime, the episodes will follow the fighters (Mikkel Kessler, Carl Froch, Arthur Abraham, Jermain Taylor, Andre Ward and Andre Dirrell) not just through training camp, but also during the moments leading up to their fights, in their corners during each bout and in the aftermath of the fights. The premiere focuses on the intrigue and the politics of how the tournament came together. "The round-robin nature of this tournament lends itself to a story arc and fight progression that has never before been seen in boxing," said Showtime's Ken Hershman, who put the tournament together. "This series will set itself apart by chronicling each man through that progression. No one knows where each story will lead, but our cameras will be there every step of the way. Add in NFL Films' breadth of experience and its trademark storytelling ability, and this series becomes exponentially more unique and compelling."

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                  • Tailback U
                    No substitute 4 strength.
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 10282

                    Originally posted by JrRawlins
                    • Fans looking to get even more pumped up for Showtime's Super Six World Boxing Classic super middleweight tournament, which opens Oct. 17, can look forward to Saturday night's premiere (10:30 ET/PT) of the network's six-episode reality series "Fight Camp 360°: Inside The Super Six World Boxing Classic." Produced in conjunction with NFL Films, the series aims to chronicle the revolutionary six-man tournament, which will play out over 12 fights in 18 months, from conception to the crowning of the champion. According to Showtime, the episodes will follow the fighters (Mikkel Kessler, Carl Froch, Arthur Abraham, Jermain Taylor, Andre Ward and Andre Dirrell) not just through training camp, but also during the moments leading up to their fights, in their corners during each bout and in the aftermath of the fights. The premiere focuses on the intrigue and the politics of how the tournament came together. "The round-robin nature of this tournament lends itself to a story arc and fight progression that has never before been seen in boxing," said Showtime's Ken Hershman, who put the tournament together. "This series will set itself apart by chronicling each man through that progression. No one knows where each story will lead, but our cameras will be there every step of the way. Add in NFL Films' breadth of experience and its trademark storytelling ability, and this series becomes exponentially more unique and compelling."
                    made a separate thread for this but here it is again for you guys that don't have showtime

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                    • BigBucs
                      Unpretentious
                      • May 2009
                      • 12758

                      Originally posted by JrRawlins
                      i do think Taylor will make hte fight interesting early.... but as the fight progresses i expect Abraham to start to dominate........

                      the best first fight of the classic............. Ward vs Kessler...... i am curious to if Kessler is as good as everyone seemed....... and Ward's ability to switch styles and his speed could really pose a problem for Kessler...... Calzaghe's speed gave Kessler issues.......
                      Although Calslappy won that fight it was mad close. He gave him all that he can handle. That said Calzaghe has the experience to deal with that straight ahead style Kess has. Although Ward dominated Miranda who comes forward all night he doesnt possess the technical skill Kessler does.

                      Originally posted by Bob Kuzzy
                      Need some advice boxing heads.. in the YURIOLKIS GAMBOA VS WHYBER GARCIA fight tomorrow.. the betting has the O/U in total rounds @ 5.5. O 5.5 rounds is +225, which seems like RIDICULOUS value. Is Gamboa THAT much better then Garcia that Garcia cant even last till the 6th round?? Just seems crazy to have those kind of odds.

                      Similar for the Lopez/Mtgawa fight.. O 7.5 rounds is +200. Dude cant even last till the 8th round with Lopez?? Ridiculous value man. Ive noticed this before in boxing odds too and have cashed.. I cashed good odds on the total rounds of the Klitscho fight just a few weeks ago.
                      Both of these fights are showcase fights. They will win and win big. If you play the odds chances are they both will stop their opponents. Both have exceptional KO ratios and both are expected to score knock outs.

                      Id put money down on the Gamboa fight if I were you but be weary of Juan Ma. The last 2 game opponents he had a hard time getting out of there. If I remember correctly the only reason he scored a stoppage in his last fight is because the fight was stopped by his corner between rounds. In his fight with Penelosa he was just a tough ass SOB who wouldnt go away even though he was dominated.

                      That said you are taking a huge risk if you take the over with Gamboa and with Juanma to a lesser degree but I just say that based on Juanmas last 2 fights. They both are capable of getting their opponents out there early.




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                      • BigBucs
                        Unpretentious
                        • May 2009
                        • 12758

                        Please tell me you took Gamboa and the under.




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                        • Kuzzy Powers
                          Beautiful Like Moses
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 12542

                          Nah I didnt even bet it.. had such a bad day in CFB that I was turned off. When did the fight end? It didnt make it to the 6th?

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                          • BigBucs
                            Unpretentious
                            • May 2009
                            • 12758

                            Gamboa KOed him in the 4th.




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                            • JrRawlins
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                              • May 2009
                              • 646

                              the more i look at these fights, i think Dirrell might beat Froch.... but i still think Abraham is gonna beat Taylor late..... but i am really leaning to Dirrell over Froch....

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                              • nflman2033
                                George Brett of VSN
                                • Apr 2009
                                • 2393

                                one day away

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