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This for starters..
But, anyway please name someone else who has flicked off the fans on top of dissing their opponent after the fight. That's difference enough right there isn't it? Because I can't think of anyone else who has done that.
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The backlash is over him being an arrogant jerk. Look at how quickly everyone turned against Bisping after TUF, because he came off a bit obnoxious and arrogant. Bisping actually had a solid fan following and was starting to establish himself in the sport. But, once people got that sense of him, boom now all of a sudden everyone is rooting against him.
I hate to use this analogy, but it's kinda fitting... This is basically starting to remind me of some black people who always try to find racism where it isn't even present. It's the same mindset of 'oh I didn't get the job so they must be bias against black people'. No, you didn't get the job because you weren't qualified and there's a hundred other white people that suffered the same fate. 'Oh they hate Brock so they're biased against Pro Wrestlers'. Nope, the guy comes off as an arrogant jerk and he suffers the same fate as everyone else who comes off as an arrogant jerk. But, not only that he also disrespected the fans which is even worse now.Comment
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So let me know if have this straight...it's completely acceptable to talk shit before a fight, to build business, but not after? That's exactly how pro wrestling works, btw.
Tito digs graves after he wins, and uses the dreaded finger. Nate Diaz disrespected an opponent before he tapped, guys do the throat slash, I can go on forvever.
Brock made two "mistakes". He didnt follow the MMA protocol of building fake heat, and he used to be a pro wrestler.Last edited by Warner2BruceTD; 07-19-2009, 12:13 AM.Comment
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Those type of antics are actually pretty rare and again you're comparing guys who are well established in the sport to someone who's still green. Lesnar hasn't earned that type of credibility to do what he did against Frank and not catch a lot of heat for it. If he had a bunch of fights under his belt in which he was professional after the fight then things would be a lot different. This is a guy thats been thrust right into the spotlight from the jump basically and hasn't shown a lot of respect for the sport. Guys like Tito, Nate, etc have all paid their dues and still have earned credit as a sportsman despite some of the BS that they do today.
But, me personally I've always spoke out against the fake bickering pre-fight in order to sell PPVs. I understand it, but I hate it and that's something I've said since BJ/Sherk. The reason why I don't like it is because it takes away from the true rivalries. Rampage/Wand ends up looking like business as usual because guys like BJ going around fabricating beef for every fight that they're in. But, hey if you're going to do it you still better be professional after the fight, especially for a guy that's brand new to the sport. He has a lot to prove in that regard.Last edited by Steel Mamba; 07-19-2009, 12:20 AM.Comment
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Here's another way to look at it. If some guy is just getting out of some gay modeling business and claims that he was in it for the cash and isn't gay, then that particular guy is going to have to bang a whole lot of pussy before anyone believes him and removes that stigma.
Brock can get rid of the Pro Wrestling stigma if he chooses to, instead he has been feeding right into it. Whereas a guy like Lashley pretty much has already defeated that stigma and if he keeps on the path he is now and makes it to a big show then no one is going to hold wrestling against him. Sure, some fighters might bring it up just to talk shit, but he'll still have their respect.Comment
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& yes there is a certain stigma that's going to be attributed to Pro Wrestlers, but the key is that the stigma can be defeated. You can compare wrestling to MMA all you want, fact still remains that wrestling is way more dramatic and over the top, which is exactly the way Lesnar has been acting. He gotta be on his best behavior to remove that stigma and separate himself from Pro Wrestling.
If a boxer entered MMA wouldn't a certain stigma be attached to them as well? MMA fans will shun any big time boxing cross-over, I guarantee you that. But, if he stayed humbled and showed respect for the sport eventually the fans are going to respect him. On the flip side if he becomes successful and mouths off about how boxers are superior then the fans are going to hate him. Same philosophy with Lesnar so there’s no need for wrestling fans to be making such a big deal over this.Last edited by Steel Mamba; 07-19-2009, 12:41 AM.Comment
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But, what can they say if he acts professional after the fights? If you don't want them to criticize you about that then don't give them such great ammunition. No one can say that about Lashley can they? Fact is Lesnar and any big time wrestling star is going to have to work harder to earn their respect in that regard. The same way a boxer would have to work harder to earn their respect as someone who truly appreciates the sport and is truly a well rounded fighter. That’s just life.Comment
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He did after Couture, and also after the Kim fight.
He didnt after Herring or Mir, because he felt disrespected by those guys. Again, i'm confused as to why his opponents can drum up fake heat, yet Brock is the one who is accused of doing the pro wrestling. He's far more genuine than Mir, who was playing pro wrestler during the entire build.Comment
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I don't see how anyone can complain about Brock considering he has brought more money and attention to the sport we all love. So what if he doesn't kiss and make up after guys run their mouths against him. He just beat their ass, he shouldn't have to. I know, I know, it is the whole honor of the ring thing, but by not doing it, Brock is getting a ton of people talking about him and the UFC.
And Dana would never admit it, but he is still salivating over his new champion. He knows that when Brock fights again, every sports channel will be talking about it beforehand and about how Brock's antics at UFC 100. He knows that all those people will be tuning in to see what he does next and if he really is such an animal. He knows that Brock doing what he is doing equals money.Comment
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