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[RosettaStoned]

You seem to have a problem taking things in context today dude. I miss when you used to actually have a good argument on your side. What happened?

And punching yourself in the balls would clearly be more effective for self painage.

More than likely. Which really means he doesn't know, that's just what he thinks. You're reaching here.

[Liquidrob]

I'll be back later, lets get this puppy up to 200!

[Kuzzy Powers]

More than likely. Which really means he doesn't know, that's just what he thinks. You're reaching here.

Actually, you'd be reaching in this instance. You implied that you think Rob agrees with you, I replied, with a quote, that he doesnt. How does that equal me reaching? That would be you reaching that he thinks you're right cause he had a couple similar points.

I miss the old, wiser, wittier Rosetta. He'd never make these same kind of mistakes.

[RosettaStoned]

Actually, you'd be reaching in this instance. You implied that you think Rob agrees with you, I replied, with a quote, that he doesnt. How does that equal me reaching? That would be you reaching that he thinks you're right cause he had a couple similar points.

That quote doesn't say he doesn't agree with me. It says he doesn't know. If he didn't agree with me, he'd argue with me instead of of you.

I miss the old, wiser, wittier Rosetta. He'd never make these same kind of mistakes.

I miss when people would say they're done, and would actually stfu.

[Kuzzy Powers]

That quote doesn't say he doesn't agree with me. It says he doesn't know. If he didn't agree with me, he'd argue with me instead of of you.



I miss when people would say they're done, and would actually stfu.

The quote says he thinks that Dan more than likely knew he was out. Hence he does not agree with you. Surely you can read, as you've been replying to several posts that you had to read (albeit selectively) in this thread. Rob even said it again later. More than likely knew = he didnt know? Gotcha.

Watch the fight again.. Dan can clearly see the guys done for at the end. Theres even a hesitation before he drops the elbow.. then an admittance of it. I can fully see why someone would believe he didnt actually know. Your logic is impeccable.

I am guilty of continuously arguing against a retarded point tho.. but I simply cannot help myself.

[RosettaStoned]

The quote says he thinks that Dan more than likely knew he was out. Hence he does not agree with you. Surely you can read, as you've been replying to several posts that you had to read (albeit selectively) in this thread. Rob even said it again later. More than likely knew = he didnt know? Gotcha.

Perhaps it's you that should refresh the reading. I'm saying Rob doesn't know if Hendo knew he was out. He thinks it's likely. That's why he's not arguing with me, because he doesn't know for sure.

Watch the fight again.. Dan can clearly see the guys done for at the end.

How the fuck do you know what Dan can see? You assuming to know what somebody else sees, and what they know is fucking hilarious. You're fucking dumb.

Theres even a hesitation before he drops the elbow

Yeah, as he balances himself. A whole split second hesitation. You're an idiot.

.. then an admittance of it. I can fully see why someone would believe he didnt actually know. Your logic is impeccable.

Yeah, he also said he doesn't hit people that are out. Why would he lie? You're saying he lied about that, but was telling the truth about knowing he was out. Why would he lie about one thing, and not another? I'm still waiting for that answer.

[RosettaStoned]

Bob, what's Dan Henderson seeing right now?

[Kuzzy Powers]

Perhaps it's you that should refresh the reading. I'm saying Rob doesn't know if Hendo knew he was out. He thinks it's likely. That's why he's not arguing with me, because he doesn't know for sure.

You said hes agreeing with you, which he obviously is not. So who was the one that was reaching? You cant even get what you said yourself correct.

How the fuck do you know what Dan can see? You assuming to know what somebody else sees, and what they know is fucking hilarious. You're fucking dumb.

You assuming that he didnt know Bisping was out when he fucking SAID he did is fucking hilarious. You're fucking retarded.

Yeah, as he balances himself. A whole split second hesitation. You're an idiot.

You say hes balancing himself, I say hes winding up to drop a bow on Bisping's KO'd ass because he doesnt like him. HEY, Dan even admits to it after the fight. How could YOU possibly be wrong? Wow. Mind blowing.

Yeah, he also said he doesn't hit people that are out. Why would he lie? You're saying he lied about that, but was telling the truth about knowing he was out. Why would he lie about one thing, and not another? I'm still waiting for that answer.

Are you dense dude? YOU fucking said he was lying about not going after KO'd fighters, not me. I in turn said "so that makes him even more classless?" because we were aruging the "classiness" of the act at that point. I never even said I agree with you. The difference between lying about not doing it is because that obviously reflects well on him.. and then lying about admitting to do it this time, is then a complete contradiction of his first "lie". So he wants people to believe he doesnt do it, but he wants to lie about doing it to Bisping, to "play to the crowd". Instead of taking things in context, you're trying to mind fuck the whole situation. If you truly want to believe Hendo didnt know, then good for you. But you're still a complete retard in believing that.

[Kuzzy Powers]

Bob, what's Dan Henderson seeing right now?

Rosetta, whats Henderson thinking right now?

[RosettaStoned]

Rosetta, whats Henderson thinking right now?

That you're a fucking retard. Along with the rest of humanity.

[RosettaStoned]

You said hes agreeing with you, which he obviously is not. So who was the one that was reaching? You cant even get what you said yourself correct.

He is actually. He said that he thinks Hendo was playing to the crowd. He doesn't know if he knew he was ko'd, and there isn't nothing classless about what he did. Keep trying.

You assuming that he didnt know Bisping was out when he fucking SAID he did is fucking hilarious. You're fucking retarded.

In the context of him bullshitting to get a rise out of the crowd, and later saying he didn't know until mid punch it's not. Again keep trying.

You say hes balancing himself, I say hes winding up to drop a bow on Bisping's KO'd ass because he doesnt like him. HEY, Dan even admits to it after the fight. How could YOU possibly be wrong? Wow. Mind blowing.

He also said he doesn't hit people after they're KO'd. Go figure he was full of shit.

Are you dense dude? YOU fucking said he was lying about not going after KO'd fighters, not me. I in turn said "so that makes him even more classless?" because we were aruging the "classiness" of the act at that point. I never even said I agree with you. The difference between lying about not doing it is because that obviously reflects well on him.. and then lying about admitting to do it this time, is then a complete contradiction of his first "lie". So he wants people to believe he doesnt do it, but he wants to lie about doing it to Bisping, to "play to the crowd". Instead of taking things in context, you're trying to mind fuck the whole situation. If you truly want to believe Hendo didnt know, then good for you. But you're still a complete retard in believing that.

He said he doesn't hit people after they are out. True or false?

He hits people after they are out. True or false?

If he really doesn't hit people after they are out (he does) then, he was obviously bullshitting. True or false?

If he was bullshitting about one thing, he can easily be bullshit about another.


You are fucking retarded.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Not sure what you are setting me up for, but...

W2B

Do you agree that this was the biggest event in the UFC and got the most mainstream media attetion?

I don't think this can be debated. It's expected to do between 1.4-1.7 million ppv buys, and was the lead story on every show on ESPN, and most of sports talk radio the next day. It set the record with 5,000 bar/restaurant ppv buys.

Scary part is, Frank Mir is not a draw. Put Brock in there with a bigger draw, with GSP & a hot tough feud on the undercard, and you would challenge 2 million buys and the boxing records.

Do you agree that Brock is the most successful Pro Wrestling star to enter MMA?

In the U.S., unquestionably.

(We will leave Japan out of this, because alot of big japanese wrestling stars have dabbled in MMA, but it would digress from the point)

-Lesnar was a bigger pro wrestling star than Bobby Lashley.

-Ken Shamrock was a wrestler first, but only a low level indy guy (As "Vince Torelli") before he switched to MMA. Then the line was blurred when he was working half his fights for Pancreas, and shooting the other half. He then went back to wrestling in the mid 90's, and was a pretty big star (who helped put over a young Rock), but never a tippy top guy. Regardless, Brock was a bigger prowres star anyway.

-Daniel Puder was a no name fighter first, a pro wrestler second, who would have no name in either sport had he not tapped out Kurt Angle on national TV in a shoot stunt that went terribly bad for Mr. Angle. His entire claim to fame is that angle, and his 15 minutes are on 14:55 at this point.

-Dan Severn was a fighter first, and never a big pro wrestling star anyway.

-Tank Abbott, see Dan Severn.

-50% of the 61 UFC fighters who did prowres were low level indy guys who even hardcore prowres followers wouldnt know about (Krzysztof Soszynski, Tom Lawlor), 49% are big stars wrestled in Japan (Mark Coleman, Josh Barnett, etc), and the other 1% were legit major league pro wrestlers in the US, some listed above.

[Liquidrob]

Not sure what you are setting me up for, but...




I don't think this can be debated. It's expected to do between 1.4-1.7 million ppv buys, and was the lead story on every show on ESPN, and most of sports talk radio the next day. It set the record with 5,000 bar/restaurant ppv buys.

Scary part is, Frank Mir is not a draw. Put Brock in there with a bigger draw, with GSP & a hot tough feud on the undercard, and you would challenge 2 million buys and the boxing records.



In the U.S., unquestionably.

(We will leave Japan out of this, because alot of big japanese wrestling stars have dabbled in MMA, but it would digress from the point)

-Lesnar was a bigger pro wrestling star than Bobby Lashley.

-Ken Shamrock was a wrestler first, but only a low level indy guy (As "Vince Torelli") before he switched to MMA. Then the line was blurred when he was working half his fights for Pancreas, and shooting the other half. He then went back to wrestling in the mid 90's, and was a pretty big star (who helped put over a young Rock), but never a tippy top guy. Regardless, Brock was a bigger prowres star anyway.

-Daniel Puder was a no name fighter first, a pro wrestler second, who would have no name in either sport had he not tapped out Kurt Angle on national TV in a shoot stunt that went terribly bad for Mr. Angle. His entire claim to fame is that angle, and his 15 minutes are on 14:55 at this point.

-Dan Severn was a fighter first, and never a big pro wrestling star anyway.

-Tank Abbott, see Dan Severn.

-50% of the 61 UFC fighters who did prowres were low level indy guys who even hardcore prowres followers wouldnt know about (Krzysztof Soszynski, Tom Lawlor), 49% are big stars wrestled in Japan (Mark Coleman, Josh Barnett, etc), and the other 1% were legit major league pro wrestlers in the US, some listed above.

Not setting you up for anything, but Meltzers article is saying that brock shouldnt be vilified for being a pro wrestler when all these other guys have done pro wrestling and thats the double standard

but Brock is the only 1 who had his success from pro wrestling first and than a MMA star, he doesnt compare with Ken, Barnett, Dan, etc...it is much different

Brock, fair or not, is representing Pro Wrestling in the media and mainstreams eyes, just like I said Kimbo was the rep for streetfighting when he of course is not the only streetfighter in MMA, but he was the most popular and was actually known for it, just like Brock with Pro Wrestler

To quote Kimbo Slice 'it is what it is'